Brewery Field is "green lung" in the middle of town, public inquiry told

Bridgwater Mercury: Brewery Field is "green lung" in the middle of town, public inquiry told Brewery Field is "green lung" in the middle of town, public inquiry told

A PUBLIC inquiry has begun today into an application to have Brewery Field in Bridgwater declared a Town Green, protecting it from development.

The ‘non-statutory public inquiry’, led by London-based barrister Paul Wilmshurst QC, is taking place at Bridgwater Pantomime Hall.

Mr Wilmshurst said: “I will hear evidence for and against granting the Brewery Field Town Green status before making a recommendation to Somerset County Council, which will make the final decision.”

The applicants, Trevor Monaghan and Patricia Walsh of Admiral’s Court, chose not to attend the inquiry because they didn’t feel it was appropriate to put this application ahead of others which had been waiting for many years.

Tesco, which has been granted permission to build its supermarket on Northgate, wants to develop 11% of the Brewery Field – but the Town Green status would prevent this.

Among those speaking in favour of the Town Green application was Jeff Harding, who told the inquiry: “I have maps dating back to the 1830s which show there has never been a building on the Brewery Field.

“Every park in Bridgwater seems to be getting built on.”

Another resident, Bob Cudlipp, told Mr Wilmshurst there are two signs on the Brewery Field saying Sedgemoor District Council manages the land and asked him to visit Victoria Park and Cranleigh Gardens to see there are no such signs in those parks.

He added: "According to research by the NHS, roughly £2.1billion could be saved in healthcare costs if every household had access to quality green space. However, a study by parks charity ‘GreenSpace’ indicated a 30% to 40% cut in green space spending in some areas.”

Sue Bartlett questioned what has changed to merit the loss of green space, adding: “Why is SCC going to be taking away areas they have previously allocated for green space? We’ll have nothing.”

Alec Western said: “I have often used the Brewery Field and regard it as a focal area within Bridgwater. Some people say it is an eyesore but I feel those comments are unwarranted.”

Pat Morley, town councillor for Fairfax Ward, said: “The Brewery Field has been the site of many historical moments in the town. I have attended many events in that area, such as the British Waterways festival, picnics and cricket matches.

“The Brewery Field site is a ‘green lung’ in the middle of the town and we need to preserve it.”

John Goddard said: “I've seen families enjoying that area and it's the only field in the centre of town suitable for large games.”

But speaking against the proposal, John Cockle said: “That field is not a proper playing field. I use it to walk my dog.

“We’re only going to lose 11% of the field, which isn’t currently used as there are no sports facilities there. If Tesco can put even half the facilities that Victoria Park has on the Brewery Field then it will be an improvement.”

David Preece, an ex-district and town councillor, spoke in favour of Tesco developing part of the Brewery Field.

He said: “Tesco will add play areas, soft mounds, benches and improve recreational space for all.

“Cricket has not been played there for 20 years and it’s become an anti-social field.”

Keep checking this site for updates, and for background to this story, click here.

Mercury reporter Kirsty James attended the inquiry and is tweeting updates - follow her @mercurykjames, and use the hashtag #tescoinquiry.

 

 

 

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12:59pm Tue 19 Feb 13

swjoduk says...

This does make my chuckle.

Surely Eastover park is central Bridgwater, and Victoria Park is not a millions miles from it.

There will still be plenty of room in the Brewery Field for games too.

Don't these people realise that if the Brewery Fields is protected Tesco will just go away and change their application with a bit of extra car park lost or a change of lay out.

Desperate measures!
This does make my chuckle. Surely Eastover park is central Bridgwater, and Victoria Park is not a millions miles from it. There will still be plenty of room in the Brewery Field for games too. Don't these people realise that if the Brewery Fields is protected Tesco will just go away and change their application with a bit of extra car park lost or a change of lay out. Desperate measures! swjoduk

3:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Mr_Opinionated says...

This is a joke, from a bunch of NIMBY's that want to hold back the wheels of progress. I for one can't wait for Tesco to come as I am fed up with having to drive to Taunton if I want to do some late night shopping. What is the big deal with all this, Tesco's will bring some much needed jobs, and finance into a town that is dying on it arse because the Town Centre is such a joke. The last time I walked through Brewery Fields it was more like playing Hopscotch thanks to all the dog poo that the local residents see to be inept at picking up. I for one would not let my kids play on that field it is disgusting. Before you all start getting on your high horse, just think for a moment, there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project..... because the town needs it, otherwise why would they bother.
This is a joke, from a bunch of NIMBY's that want to hold back the wheels of progress. I for one can't wait for Tesco to come as I am fed up with having to drive to Taunton if I want to do some late night shopping. What is the big deal with all this, Tesco's will bring some much needed jobs, and finance into a town that is dying on it arse because the Town Centre is such a joke. The last time I walked through Brewery Fields it was more like playing Hopscotch thanks to all the dog poo that the local residents see to be inept at picking up. I for one would not let my kids play on that field it is disgusting. Before you all start getting on your high horse, just think for a moment, there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project..... because the town needs it, otherwise why would they bother. Mr_Opinionated

4:19pm Tue 19 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl windswept and interesting

4:26pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

"there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project....."

If you really, truly, think Tesco is involved to benefit the Town in any way then I'm afraid it shows a massive naivety, Tesco want to make money, full stop.

60p in every £1 in the UK is spent in a supermarket - we all know now that price pressure leads to scandal and when this 60p heads to 70p choice won't increase, it'll reduce.
"there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project....." If you really, truly, think Tesco is involved to benefit the Town in any way then I'm afraid it shows a massive naivety, Tesco want to make money, full stop. 60p in every £1 in the UK is spent in a supermarket - we all know now that price pressure leads to scandal and when this 60p heads to 70p choice won't increase, it'll reduce. Samej1

4:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

60p in every retail pound.
[clarification] 60p in every retail pound. Samej1

4:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Olires says...

People are only interested in one thing - Shopping, but fail to realise the impact on what is already a busy junction. It will turn this area into a nightmare and at peak times it will be gridlocked, is this what people really want?
People are only interested in one thing - Shopping, but fail to realise the impact on what is already a busy junction. It will turn this area into a nightmare and at peak times it will be gridlocked, is this what people really want? Olires

7:33pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Olires wrote:
People are only interested in one thing - Shopping, but fail to realise the impact on what is already a busy junction. It will turn this area into a nightmare and at peak times it will be gridlocked, is this what people really want?
Olires, Northgate is at present a Carpark @ certain times of the day already. Part of this Tesco Application is Highways junction improvements, and an upgraded Traffic Signal System. This Store will not be completed until 2014/15.
By then the whole of Bridgwater, will be stuck in a Traffic nightmare, because of EDF Hinkley C Site. I'm still awaiting, what specific EDF Junction improvements, we actually are going to have instigated upon us.
Regards Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Olires[/bold] wrote: People are only interested in one thing - Shopping, but fail to realise the impact on what is already a busy junction. It will turn this area into a nightmare and at peak times it will be gridlocked, is this what people really want?[/p][/quote]Olires, Northgate is at present a Carpark @ certain times of the day already. Part of this Tesco Application is Highways junction improvements, and an upgraded Traffic Signal System. This Store will not be completed until 2014/15. By then the whole of Bridgwater, will be stuck in a Traffic nightmare, because of EDF Hinkley C Site. I'm still awaiting, what specific EDF Junction improvements, we actually are going to have instigated upon us. Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:53pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Mr_Opinionated wrote:
This is a joke, from a bunch of NIMBY's that want to hold back the wheels of progress. I for one can't wait for Tesco to come as I am fed up with having to drive to Taunton if I want to do some late night shopping. What is the big deal with all this, Tesco's will bring some much needed jobs, and finance into a town that is dying on it arse because the Town Centre is such a joke. The last time I walked through Brewery Fields it was more like playing Hopscotch thanks to all the dog poo that the local residents see to be inept at picking up. I for one would not let my kids play on that field it is disgusting. Before you all start getting on your high horse, just think for a moment, there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project..... because the town needs it, otherwise why would they bother.
No, lets get it right, we the people want it, Tesco's obviously are willing to spend £11-12 Million, to secure the land, with another £ ****.oo Million to build the Store, of course, it's going to be of benefit to Tesco's. They, are not a charity, they are no different than the others in the retail market, of food and household items.
If, this " Green Garden" status, is given legs, then all Tesco's will do after, spending nearly 4 years,, to get to where they are on Northgate today. They could Landbank the Site, do nothing apart from Board of the whole Site, sit and wait for, someone, if there was to come along and make an offer, this could be unlikely soon!! Can we wait 4-5 years!! No.
When will the protesters realise, No one else, is there to build or develop this site, it has been out to European offer, with only one bite, from Tesco's.
Regards David Preece Aka Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Mr_Opinionated[/bold] wrote: This is a joke, from a bunch of NIMBY's that want to hold back the wheels of progress. I for one can't wait for Tesco to come as I am fed up with having to drive to Taunton if I want to do some late night shopping. What is the big deal with all this, Tesco's will bring some much needed jobs, and finance into a town that is dying on it arse because the Town Centre is such a joke. The last time I walked through Brewery Fields it was more like playing Hopscotch thanks to all the dog poo that the local residents see to be inept at picking up. I for one would not let my kids play on that field it is disgusting. Before you all start getting on your high horse, just think for a moment, there is a reason why Tesco is investing so much in this project..... because the town needs it, otherwise why would they bother.[/p][/quote]No, lets get it right, we the people want it, Tesco's obviously are willing to spend £11-12 Million, to secure the land, with another £ ****.oo Million to build the Store, of course, it's going to be of benefit to Tesco's. They, are not a charity, they are no different than the others in the retail market, of food and household items. If, this " Green Garden" status, is given legs, then all Tesco's will do after, spending nearly 4 years,, to get to where they are on Northgate today. They could Landbank the Site, do nothing apart from Board of the whole Site, sit and wait for, someone, if there was to come along and make an offer, this could be unlikely soon!! Can we wait 4-5 years!! No. When will the protesters realise, No one else, is there to build or develop this site, it has been out to European offer, with only one bite, from Tesco's. Regards David Preece Aka Blue-Owl Blue Owl

8:21pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Windswept&interestin
g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ??

The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week.
So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today.
So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc.
Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases.
So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving.
Blue-Owl
A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Couldn't agree more Blue Owl[/p][/quote]Windswept&interestin g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ?? The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week. So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today. So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc. Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases. So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving. Blue-Owl A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows Blue Owl

8:36pm Tue 19 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

A 24 hour supermarket would be most welcome although why this cannot be provided by anyone of the three existing supermarkets I don't know.

At the end of the day, it will mean more jobs and if green space is that important, 10 minutes walk up the River Parrett is all the green space you could ever wish for.
A 24 hour supermarket would be most welcome although why this cannot be provided by anyone of the three existing supermarkets I don't know. At the end of the day, it will mean more jobs and if green space is that important, 10 minutes walk up the River Parrett is all the green space you could ever wish for. BaldCarl2

9:48pm Tue 19 Feb 13

crunchtime says...

Says it all to me, when the 2 people that instigated this don't even bother to turn up, whether they accept it or not surely they should turn up and put their point of view forward in person.

I for one hope that it is dismissed and that Tesco are allowed to carry on and build their store, at the moment the only supermarket that side of the town, all the others are situated over the bridges that link to the other side of town.

Most of the time that area is used as a cut through to/from the docks, and not much else. Even the play area tends only to be used by adolescents, when they have nothing to do.

As for events on that area it may be used once or twice a year, for such things.

Does it really hold any merit.

Victoria Park is just a few minutes walk away and is more than adequate, with a regularly used play area, skateboard park, football pitch, bowling club, tennis courts, cafe, doctors, pharmacy, and hall for hire, with lots of green space, and always seems to be in use, and also holds fetes etc.

I for one will be supporting Tesco
Says it all to me, when the 2 people that instigated this don't even bother to turn up, whether they accept it or not surely they should turn up and put their point of view forward in person. I for one hope that it is dismissed and that Tesco are allowed to carry on and build their store, at the moment the only supermarket that side of the town, all the others are situated over the bridges that link to the other side of town. Most of the time that area is used as a cut through to/from the docks, and not much else. Even the play area tends only to be used by adolescents, when they have nothing to do. As for events on that area it may be used once or twice a year, for such things. Does it really hold any merit. Victoria Park is just a few minutes walk away and is more than adequate, with a regularly used play area, skateboard park, football pitch, bowling club, tennis courts, cafe, doctors, pharmacy, and hall for hire, with lots of green space, and always seems to be in use, and also holds fetes etc. I for one will be supporting Tesco crunchtime

9:51pm Tue 19 Feb 13

crunchtime says...

meant to say morrisons are the only supermarket that side of town
meant to say morrisons are the only supermarket that side of town crunchtime

11:05pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

crunchtime wrote:
Says it all to me, when the 2 people that instigated this don't even bother to turn up, whether they accept it or not surely they should turn up and put their point of view forward in person.

I for one hope that it is dismissed and that Tesco are allowed to carry on and build their store, at the moment the only supermarket that side of the town, all the others are situated over the bridges that link to the other side of town.

Most of the time that area is used as a cut through to/from the docks, and not much else. Even the play area tends only to be used by adolescents, when they have nothing to do.

As for events on that area it may be used once or twice a year, for such things.

Does it really hold any merit.

Victoria Park is just a few minutes walk away and is more than adequate, with a regularly used play area, skateboard park, football pitch, bowling club, tennis courts, cafe, doctors, pharmacy, and hall for hire, with lots of green space, and always seems to be in use, and also holds fetes etc.

I for one will be supporting Tesco
It's interesting that the Anti -Tesco brigade, have gone silent, after the Successful Planning Application, last week, for Tesco's. Where is Cllr Smedley, and Bridgwater (Backward ) Forward!! Total silence from those Quarters.
Perhaps, they know that Bridgwaters Public, do not share their views!! That the Majority of residents cannot wait for Tesco's to open their New Store, on Northgate.
I for one, will use the store, along with Asda, which, I use @ present for 60% of my shop. When this store is built, I'm sure the other supermarkets will up their game, therefore win win to us the Public.
Bring it on, the sooner the better!!
Regards Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]crunchtime[/bold] wrote: Says it all to me, when the 2 people that instigated this don't even bother to turn up, whether they accept it or not surely they should turn up and put their point of view forward in person. I for one hope that it is dismissed and that Tesco are allowed to carry on and build their store, at the moment the only supermarket that side of the town, all the others are situated over the bridges that link to the other side of town. Most of the time that area is used as a cut through to/from the docks, and not much else. Even the play area tends only to be used by adolescents, when they have nothing to do. As for events on that area it may be used once or twice a year, for such things. Does it really hold any merit. Victoria Park is just a few minutes walk away and is more than adequate, with a regularly used play area, skateboard park, football pitch, bowling club, tennis courts, cafe, doctors, pharmacy, and hall for hire, with lots of green space, and always seems to be in use, and also holds fetes etc. I for one will be supporting Tesco[/p][/quote]It's interesting that the Anti -Tesco brigade, have gone silent, after the Successful Planning Application, last week, for Tesco's. Where is Cllr Smedley, and Bridgwater (Backward ) Forward!! Total silence from those Quarters. Perhaps, they know that Bridgwaters Public, do not share their views!! That the Majority of residents cannot wait for Tesco's to open their New Store, on Northgate. I for one, will use the store, along with Asda, which, I use @ present for 60% of my shop. When this store is built, I'm sure the other supermarkets will up their game, therefore win win to us the Public. Bring it on, the sooner the better!! Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

11:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Windswept&intere
stin
g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ??

The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week.
So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today.
So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc.
Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases.
So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving.
Blue-Owl
A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows
No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-)

Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund !
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Couldn't agree more Blue Owl[/p][/quote]Windswept&intere stin g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ?? The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week. So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today. So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc. Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases. So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving. Blue-Owl A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows[/p][/quote]No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-) Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund ! windswept and interesting

11:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

BaldCarl2 wrote:
A 24 hour supermarket would be most welcome although why this cannot be provided by anyone of the three existing supermarkets I don't know.

At the end of the day, it will mean more jobs and if green space is that important, 10 minutes walk up the River Parrett is all the green space you could ever wish for.
Carl, we nearly have 24hr shopping, there is the Co-op on Westonzoyland Rd, open until 11pm. Also, a 24hr store in Taunton Road, by the lay by
Stop.
So you can look forward to your 24 hr shopping from Tesco's, what I found @ last weeks Planning meeting Application, was that the existing supermarkets told the Hepher Dixon 2006 Retail study, that they had intentions to expand the floor space, that was in 2006, not one has done it.
So there is now a real need for more retail shopping. we are now 6 years on and the population of Sedgemoor and the surrounding Villages, is nearing 50.000 residents. With another 25.000 EDF workers coming shortly to Bridgwater.
DavidPreece -Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]BaldCarl2[/bold] wrote: A 24 hour supermarket would be most welcome although why this cannot be provided by anyone of the three existing supermarkets I don't know. At the end of the day, it will mean more jobs and if green space is that important, 10 minutes walk up the River Parrett is all the green space you could ever wish for.[/p][/quote]Carl, we nearly have 24hr shopping, there is the Co-op on Westonzoyland Rd, open until 11pm. Also, a 24hr store in Taunton Road, by the lay by Stop. So you can look forward to your 24 hr shopping from Tesco's, what I found @ last weeks Planning meeting Application, was that the existing supermarkets told the Hepher Dixon 2006 Retail study, that they had intentions to expand the floor space, that was in 2006, not one has done it. So there is now a real need for more retail shopping. we are now 6 years on and the population of Sedgemoor and the surrounding Villages, is nearing 50.000 residents. With another 25.000 EDF workers coming shortly to Bridgwater. DavidPreece -Blue-Owl Blue Owl

1:01am Wed 20 Feb 13

Amused&Bemused says...

Asda opens till 11pm.

Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!!
Asda opens till 11pm. Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!! Amused&Bemused

7:01am Wed 20 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

Amused&Bemused wrote:
Asda opens till 11pm.

Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!!
or possibly....an upmarket wine bar/ bistro!
[quote][p][bold]Amused&Bemused[/bold] wrote: Asda opens till 11pm. Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]or possibly....an upmarket wine bar/ bistro! ianeggbert

7:40am Wed 20 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

To not turn up seems bizarre and self defeating but having said that they might have been tipped off that Blue Fowl was going to turn up. Who really wants to sit through his own version of "my wonderful life" with no doubt lots of capital letters and exclamation marks thrown in.
To not turn up seems bizarre and self defeating but having said that they might have been tipped off that Blue Fowl was going to turn up. Who really wants to sit through his own version of "my wonderful life" with no doubt lots of capital letters and exclamation marks thrown in. Bridgy old Boy

10:26am Wed 20 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Its so quite from the Bridgwater Town Council Labour Cllrs and the Forward Backward Group ....Surely Cllr Smedley& Co would of had something to say about the way the vote went ..with one of his own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of Tesco being built
Whats next ...for the Labour group , must be something they can stop ..
O I forgot they cant because they have no power within SDC .
Its so quite from the Bridgwater Town Council Labour Cllrs and the Forward Backward Group ....Surely Cllr Smedley& Co would of had something to say about the way the vote went ..with one of his own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of Tesco being built Whats next ...for the Labour group , must be something they can stop .. O I forgot they cant because they have no power within SDC . cidreman

10:48am Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Windswept&intere

stin
g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ??

The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week.
So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today.
So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc.
Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases.
So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving.
Blue-Owl
A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows
No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-)

Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund !
Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself.
If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs
( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley.
I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!????
No regards
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Couldn't agree more Blue Owl[/p][/quote]Windswept&intere stin g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ?? The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week. So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today. So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc. Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases. So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving. Blue-Owl A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows[/p][/quote]No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-) Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund ![/p][/quote]Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself. If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs ( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley. I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!???? No regards David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

10:51am Wed 20 Feb 13

RustyKnight says...

I think the tweets from the Tesco planning meeting say a lot about our Cllrs. If you read through them they say that all the Labour Cllrs are against the new Tesco store, then at the end they voted 8-3 for it. Why did so many of them change their minds? How much did they get paid, etc.?


Back to the Brewery Field, there are too many people who don't seem to care about green spaces these days and too many go on about NIMBY's!

How would they like it if Tesco were to build a massive superstore on their doorstep, block out their views, kill their green spaces?

People might be NIMBY's but they have good reason to be so.

I've read a lot of comments on this website and Facebook about the Brewery Field "only" being used by dog walkers, so what, dog owners are people just like the rest of us, would you rather they walk their dogs on the streets and no allow the dogs any exercise?
I think the tweets from the Tesco planning meeting say a lot about our Cllrs. If you read through them they say that all the Labour Cllrs are against the new Tesco store, then at the end they voted 8-3 for it. Why did so many of them change their minds? How much did they get paid, etc.? Back to the Brewery Field, there are too many people who don't seem to care about green spaces these days and too many go on about NIMBY's! How would they like it if Tesco were to build a massive superstore on their doorstep, block out their views, kill their green spaces? People might be NIMBY's but they have good reason to be so. I've read a lot of comments on this website and Facebook about the Brewery Field "only" being used by dog walkers, so what, dog owners are people just like the rest of us, would you rather they walk their dogs on the streets and no allow the dogs any exercise? RustyKnight

10:53am Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Amused&Bemused wrote:
Asda opens till 11pm.

Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!!
or possibly....an upmarket wine bar/ bistro!
Why don't you GROW UP!! Petty minded idiot?
I do not mind what happens to the Thompson's Ironmongers former building, I have moved on, pity you don't seem to be able to.
For your information, but I know nothing, !!!!! Possibly when our Boys in Blue vacate their Home on Northgate, a petrol Site could possibly be located there. Ugh!!
Have u worked it out as to location??
See I can also be a Cynical Fool, like you!
David Preece
Blue -Owl
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Amused&Bemused[/bold] wrote: Asda opens till 11pm. Next planning will be Old Thompson's building turning into TESCO'S petrol station !!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]or possibly....an upmarket wine bar/ bistro![/p][/quote]Why don't you GROW UP!! Petty minded idiot? I do not mind what happens to the Thompson's Ironmongers former building, I have moved on, pity you don't seem to be able to. For your information, but I know nothing, !!!!! Possibly when our Boys in Blue vacate their Home on Northgate, a petrol Site could possibly be located there. Ugh!! Have u worked it out as to location?? See I can also be a Cynical Fool, like you! David Preece Blue -Owl Blue Owl

11:03am Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

RustyKnight wrote:
I think the tweets from the Tesco planning meeting say a lot about our Cllrs. If you read through them they say that all the Labour Cllrs are against the new Tesco store, then at the end they voted 8-3 for it. Why did so many of them change their minds? How much did they get paid, etc.?


Back to the Brewery Field, there are too many people who don't seem to care about green spaces these days and too many go on about NIMBY's!

How would they like it if Tesco were to build a massive superstore on their doorstep, block out their views, kill their green spaces?

People might be NIMBY's but they have good reason to be so.

I've read a lot of comments on this website and Facebook about the Brewery Field "only" being used by dog walkers, so what, dog owners are people just like the rest of us, would you rather they walk their dogs on the streets and no allow the dogs any exercise?
Rustyknight, I think everyone is missing the point. 11% of the total Land is proposed to be taken into the Tesco Site, mainly this is land unused around the edge of the existing car park adjoining the rear of the Court / Registry Office.
In return the entire Brewery Space left will be enhanced for all to us
[quote][p][bold]RustyKnight[/bold] wrote: I think the tweets from the Tesco planning meeting say a lot about our Cllrs. If you read through them they say that all the Labour Cllrs are against the new Tesco store, then at the end they voted 8-3 for it. Why did so many of them change their minds? How much did they get paid, etc.? Back to the Brewery Field, there are too many people who don't seem to care about green spaces these days and too many go on about NIMBY's! How would they like it if Tesco were to build a massive superstore on their doorstep, block out their views, kill their green spaces? People might be NIMBY's but they have good reason to be so. I've read a lot of comments on this website and Facebook about the Brewery Field "only" being used by dog walkers, so what, dog owners are people just like the rest of us, would you rather they walk their dogs on the streets and no allow the dogs any exercise?[/p][/quote]Rustyknight, I think everyone is missing the point. 11% of the total Land is proposed to be taken into the Tesco Site, mainly this is land unused around the edge of the existing car park adjoining the rear of the Court / Registry Office. In return the entire Brewery Space left will be enhanced for all to us Blue Owl

11:08am Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Sorry but an error came up on the site, I expect, I Posted 2 Many CAPITALS,or More than 50 cylibals !
Blue Owl
Watch out here come the Comments Now!!! Such a sad life they must lead,!
Blue-tit - Owl
Fly away Peter Fly away Paul ! Gone!
Sorry but an error came up on the site, I expect, I Posted 2 Many CAPITALS,or More than 50 cylibals ! Blue Owl Watch out here come the Comments Now!!! Such a sad life they must lead,! Blue-tit - Owl Fly away Peter Fly away Paul ! Gone! Blue Owl

12:02pm Wed 20 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Blue Owl
you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ...
The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ...
At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings .
Blue Owl you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ... The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ... At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings . cidreman

12:03pm Wed 20 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Windswept&intere


stin
g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ??

The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week.
So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today.
So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc.
Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases.
So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving.
Blue-Owl
A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows
No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-)

Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund !
Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself.
If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs
( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley.
I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!????
No regards
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Yes Blue Owl I am smart - so smart in fact that I don't need to constantly tell folk exactly how smart I am !

Neither do I feel the need to divulge exactly how I achieved my smartness, and I don't need to belittle myself by throwing my toys out of the pram on a public forum.
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Couldn't agree more Blue Owl[/p][/quote]Windswept&intere stin g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ?? The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week. So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today. So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc. Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases. So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving. Blue-Owl A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows[/p][/quote]No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-) Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund ![/p][/quote]Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself. If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs ( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley. I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!???? No regards David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]Yes Blue Owl I am smart - so smart in fact that I don't need to constantly tell folk exactly how smart I am ! Neither do I feel the need to divulge exactly how I achieved my smartness, and I don't need to belittle myself by throwing my toys out of the pram on a public forum. windswept and interesting

12:14pm Wed 20 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Couldn't agree more Blue Owl
Windswept&intere



stin
g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ??

The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week.
So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today.
So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc.
Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases.
So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving.
Blue-Owl
A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows
No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-)

Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund !
Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself.
If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs
( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley.
I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!????
No regards
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
Yes Blue Owl I am smart - so smart in fact that I don't need to constantly tell folk exactly how smart I am !

Neither do I feel the need to divulge exactly how I achieved my smartness, and I don't need to belittle myself by throwing my toys out of the pram on a public forum.
Oh gawd, now you've done it w&i. Run for the hills and grab your tin hats there's a storm coming!
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Couldn't agree more Blue Owl[/p][/quote]Windswept&intere stin g, is your comment supposed to be funny, or have you lost the plot, as to what r u agreeing with Blue-Owl ?? The thing that, if it was'nt a waste of Taxpayers money, I'm told that the costs for this enquiry, is charged to Somerset CC. The Two Residents, who brought this appeal, did'nt bother to attend, and put their case. I wonder who put them up to it, ?? Was it Cllr Smedley, unhappy with the Planning Tesco Application being accepted last week. So, here we were today, with 2 Barristers, 1 Solicitor SDC, 6/7 SDC Officers, Members of the Public, who were denied the chance of hearing directly from the people who instigated this Farce, they failed to turn up, gave no reason other than, they did'nt recognise the Enquiry as it was. If they were not prepared, then they should have made representations to the Inspector today. So they have wasted everyone's time, and with Barristers, working on a minimum 8 hrs pay per day, ; up to £1000.00 per Hour! Plus their Expenditure Costs, travel etc. Now we have to wait minimum 14 days for the evidence to be submitted in written form to the Inspector, who will possible take a further 6+ weeks to publish his comments / findings, these then are only Reccomendations, and have not to be accepted by SDC, these green garden cases, have been the subject of judicial appeal, overturn, they, will shortly be amended in the Commons, as they are being used flippantly in some cases. So, as Barristers, are trying to deliver their findings based on ' CaseLaw' as they have to, the goal posts are forever moving. Blue-Owl A good day spent, listening to legal argument, but Dissapointed that there was " Two Empty Chairs" perhaps they thought it was a delaying tactic, on their part.!! Who Knows[/p][/quote]No I have not lost the plot Blue Owl. I am merely conducting an experiment to find out how many words I could get out of you from my 5 word posting ;-) Pretty impressive rate of return I must admit - if only I could use the same formula and link it to my pension fund ![/p][/quote]Oh how lucky you are, to be so smart and also have a Pension Pot.!! You are becoming like some of the others on these post's. Add nothing to the debate, just pull apart anything that is posted.!! Without adding Substance yourself. If I live long enough to actually receive the Pension, that I have worked for, from 15 years old paying my stamp, deducted from wages, for now 45yrs ( except for 2 years @ WSM Tech College) with a further 7 years b4 retirement age @77. When I can collect my £144.00 per week, State Pension. My private personal payment pension fund, will be worthless by then.52 yrs of work. Three of my friends have died @ my age in the last 12 months. Yet another funeral on Thursday this week...RIP John Chorley. I suppose YOU are lucky enough to have an index linked final salary Pension!!???? No regards David L Preece Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]Yes Blue Owl I am smart - so smart in fact that I don't need to constantly tell folk exactly how smart I am ! Neither do I feel the need to divulge exactly how I achieved my smartness, and I don't need to belittle myself by throwing my toys out of the pram on a public forum.[/p][/quote]Oh gawd, now you've done it w&i. Run for the hills and grab your tin hats there's a storm coming! ianeggbert

1:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13

albertfudpucker says...

This makes me chuckle. We are told the people of bridgwater don't want this. About 180 people have stated that in a town area of how many thousands. Most of those are either residents around the docks ( fair enough you bought the property without that view) then you get the professional people botherers who stick their face in on every cause or change to the beautiful ( ahem) town centre. As sure as water is wet and wheels are round Tesco's will be built so will hinkley they will both provide jobs and future development in the area. So the eternally unemployed cllrs of the borough can gripe and moan about that as well
This makes me chuckle. We are told the people of bridgwater don't want this. About 180 people have stated that in a town area of how many thousands. Most of those are either residents around the docks ( fair enough you bought the property without that view) then you get the professional people botherers who stick their face in on every cause or change to the beautiful ( ahem) town centre. As sure as water is wet and wheels are round Tesco's will be built so will hinkley they will both provide jobs and future development in the area. So the eternally unemployed cllrs of the borough can gripe and moan about that as well albertfudpucker

2:31pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

Oh Albert every thing is so simple in your world. I am not sure if you you ever drive around town or more specifically the Mount Street/Northgate area but if you do I suggest you seek an alternative route when this development is completed and indeed forget about the whole of Bridgwater if Hinkley C is built. The Town is heading for gridlock a fact that even Blue Fowl agrees with but no doubt this is a small price to pay for "jobs and future development".
Oh Albert every thing is so simple in your world. I am not sure if you you ever drive around town or more specifically the Mount Street/Northgate area but if you do I suggest you seek an alternative route when this development is completed and indeed forget about the whole of Bridgwater if Hinkley C is built. The Town is heading for gridlock a fact that even Blue Fowl agrees with but no doubt this is a small price to pay for "jobs and future development". Bridgy old Boy

4:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Deemaitch says...

The council can't afford not to back tesco's bid.They have already spent their share of the £11,000 paying for the new swimming pool
They have commited themselves to the sale.
The council can't afford not to back tesco's bid.They have already spent their share of the £11,000 paying for the new swimming pool They have commited themselves to the sale. Deemaitch

5:08pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

It's quite disturbing watching some kind of meltdown in public.... and I'm not talking about HPC
It's quite disturbing watching some kind of meltdown in public.... and I'm not talking about HPC Samej1

6:26pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Cllr Brian Smedley says...

If anyone would like to read the facts of the Town Green case they're here.

https://sites.google
.com/site/bridgwater
westoverweb/news/tow
ngreenhearinggoesahe
addespiteresidentsno
-show
If anyone would like to read the facts of the Town Green case they're here. https://sites.google .com/site/bridgwater westoverweb/news/tow ngreenhearinggoesahe addespiteresidentsno -show Cllr Brian Smedley

7:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

To all of you on this Forum, who want to use it to belittle what ever I post, it's like water off a ducks back.
I unlike you actually care about Bridgwater and its future, which is why I put myself up for election for 8 yrs.
I hope in that time I was able to add input and effect change.
As I asked before, what is the point of this Mercury Forum ,if all it does is snipe at each other, I only get drawn in when I feel personally vindicated to do so.
So criticise my actions all you want, whilst having a pop at me you are wasting your time,!
It's Sping soon, so why not turn over a new leaf, Post something that's worthy of debate,
David Preece
Blue-Owl
To all of you on this Forum, who want to use it to belittle what ever I post, it's like water off a ducks back. I unlike you actually care about Bridgwater and its future, which is why I put myself up for election for 8 yrs. I hope in that time I was able to add input and effect change. As I asked before, what is the point of this Mercury Forum ,if all it does is snipe at each other, I only get drawn in when I feel personally vindicated to do so. So criticise my actions all you want, whilst having a pop at me you are wasting your time,! It's Sping soon, so why not turn over a new leaf, Post something that's worthy of debate, David Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

cidreman wrote:
Blue Owl
you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ...
The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ...
At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings .
Cidreman, be careful, as if you post anything that hints as to supporting any thing I stand for, you are walking a dangerous path.
As you will now be open to abuse on this Posting Page, as I am.
But, like myself you have the " Balls" to speak for what you believe.
Regards Blue-Owl
David L Preece
[quote][p][bold]cidreman[/bold] wrote: Blue Owl you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ... The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ... At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings .[/p][/quote]Cidreman, be careful, as if you post anything that hints as to supporting any thing I stand for, you are walking a dangerous path. As you will now be open to abuse on this Posting Page, as I am. But, like myself you have the " Balls" to speak for what you believe. Regards Blue-Owl David L Preece Blue Owl

7:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
To not turn up seems bizarre and self defeating but having said that they might have been tipped off that Blue Fowl was going to turn up. Who really wants to sit through his own version of "my wonderful life" with no doubt lots of capital letters and exclamation marks thrown in.
Bridgy old Boy, you belittle yourself with the constant slurs and innuendo
If you name relates to your age, then act it,! Then we can enter into a sensible dialogue, if not carry on, and join the other posters
Ianeggbert
Windswept & uninteresting
Amused&bemused
Astound me and other posters on this site, post something that actually is positive, or are you all pals of Cllr Smedley, and Bridgwater (Backward ) Forward Group.
Makes me wonder !!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: To not turn up seems bizarre and self defeating but having said that they might have been tipped off that Blue Fowl was going to turn up. Who really wants to sit through his own version of "my wonderful life" with no doubt lots of capital letters and exclamation marks thrown in.[/p][/quote]Bridgy old Boy, you belittle yourself with the constant slurs and innuendo If you name relates to your age, then act it,! Then we can enter into a sensible dialogue, if not carry on, and join the other posters Ianeggbert Windswept & uninteresting Amused&bemused Astound me and other posters on this site, post something that actually is positive, or are you all pals of Cllr Smedley, and Bridgwater (Backward ) Forward Group. Makes me wonder !! David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:39pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Oh Albert every thing is so simple in your world. I am not sure if you you ever drive around town or more specifically the Mount Street/Northgate area but if you do I suggest you seek an alternative route when this development is completed and indeed forget about the whole of Bridgwater if Hinkley C is built. The Town is heading for gridlock a fact that even Blue Fowl agrees with but no doubt this is a small price to pay for "jobs and future development".
Yes I do agree, which is why, unlike my knockers on this Forum, I am still trying to get sorted out, as until EDF is announced as the Minister of State has to determine the Application, there is little doubt that this is a forgone conclusion. !!
I am in talks with SCC Highways Depot @ Dunball, actually going out next week in my own time, to point out the bad State of our highways in and around our Town.
So that more of the County High way budget can be allocated to remedy this.
It is not a small price to pay, it is an unacceptable price to endure!!! Which is why I will continue to challenge SCC on this matter, until they accept that we deserve better.!!
So, why do I bother, with the comments from some quarters on this Post, their petty comments are just that Petty. !!
David L Preece
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Oh Albert every thing is so simple in your world. I am not sure if you you ever drive around town or more specifically the Mount Street/Northgate area but if you do I suggest you seek an alternative route when this development is completed and indeed forget about the whole of Bridgwater if Hinkley C is built. The Town is heading for gridlock a fact that even Blue Fowl agrees with but no doubt this is a small price to pay for "jobs and future development".[/p][/quote]Yes I do agree, which is why, unlike my knockers on this Forum, I am still trying to get sorted out, as until EDF is announced as the Minister of State has to determine the Application, there is little doubt that this is a forgone conclusion. !! I am in talks with SCC Highways Depot @ Dunball, actually going out next week in my own time, to point out the bad State of our highways in and around our Town. So that more of the County High way budget can be allocated to remedy this. It is not a small price to pay, it is an unacceptable price to endure!!! Which is why I will continue to challenge SCC on this matter, until they accept that we deserve better.!! So, why do I bother, with the comments from some quarters on this Post, their petty comments are just that Petty. !! David L Preece Blue Owl

8:06pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Deemaitch wrote:
The council can't afford not to back tesco's bid.They have already spent their share of the £11,000 paying for the new swimming pool
They have commited themselves to the sale.
Deemaitch, firstly welcome to this post site, be prepared to stand by your comments though, as the 'knockers' will attack you.
Let me enliten you, the whole point of putting the Northgate Site in its entirety was to have a large enough plot, to enable Major Investors in Retail or Leisure, to come and invest in our Town. We the Conservatives , as I was then, SDC owned 60% of the Site, with Somerset CC owning the other 40%, with the land towards the Docks end.
Which included the Enterprise Centre building and the old hospital, on the site. SCC, undertook to save monies as all Councils have to do year on Year. Thus, as SDC, have done the same over the last 10 years, with natural job shedding and only a small number of forced redundancies, thus reducing the work force from 850 ish to 450.Thus making savings, and giving retained workers more job flexibility, therefore more efficient working practices. Resulting in less desk requirement, and the opportunity for SCC to come into SDC Bridgwater House, to share office floor space.
It is now normal practice for the sale of Council Assets, to be sold to reinvest in new projects, for Community Benefit, this is what we did, to enable the building of the New Pool which will open next Friday @ Chilton.
Over £6 Million, so yes, we are and were commited to see Tesco's development , as there was and is no other business or company, who want or are willing to spend the investment that Tesco's are.
So, Sedgemoor will get 60% of the Land Sale + £1 Million for loss of Carpark fee's.
The result is a brand New Pool fit for purpose.
A Tesco's Extra Retail outlet, over 300 free parking for 3 hrs, to all, not just their customers.
7 New Retail units that will attract new businesses to Bridgwater.
So ,yes I'm proud to have been part of this 6 year transformation. By the Conservatives in Bridgwater and Sedgemoor.
Now pray tell me how Cllr Brian Smedley and his Labour Cllrs would have achieved any of this!! Even with his Bridgwater (Backward) Forward Supporters. As they at no time ever and I mean ever, did they have any input or alternative schemes.
Regards Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Deemaitch[/bold] wrote: The council can't afford not to back tesco's bid.They have already spent their share of the £11,000 paying for the new swimming pool They have commited themselves to the sale.[/p][/quote]Deemaitch, firstly welcome to this post site, be prepared to stand by your comments though, as the 'knockers' will attack you. Let me enliten you, the whole point of putting the Northgate Site in its entirety was to have a large enough plot, to enable Major Investors in Retail or Leisure, to come and invest in our Town. We the Conservatives , as I was then, SDC owned 60% of the Site, with Somerset CC owning the other 40%, with the land towards the Docks end. Which included the Enterprise Centre building and the old hospital, on the site. SCC, undertook to save monies as all Councils have to do year on Year. Thus, as SDC, have done the same over the last 10 years, with natural job shedding and only a small number of forced redundancies, thus reducing the work force from 850 ish to 450.Thus making savings, and giving retained workers more job flexibility, therefore more efficient working practices. Resulting in less desk requirement, and the opportunity for SCC to come into SDC Bridgwater House, to share office floor space. It is now normal practice for the sale of Council Assets, to be sold to reinvest in new projects, for Community Benefit, this is what we did, to enable the building of the New Pool which will open next Friday @ Chilton. Over £6 Million, so yes, we are and were commited to see Tesco's development , as there was and is no other business or company, who want or are willing to spend the investment that Tesco's are. So, Sedgemoor will get 60% of the Land Sale + £1 Million for loss of Carpark fee's. The result is a brand New Pool fit for purpose. A Tesco's Extra Retail outlet, over 300 free parking for 3 hrs, to all, not just their customers. 7 New Retail units that will attract new businesses to Bridgwater. So ,yes I'm proud to have been part of this 6 year transformation. By the Conservatives in Bridgwater and Sedgemoor. Now pray tell me how Cllr Brian Smedley and his Labour Cllrs would have achieved any of this!! Even with his Bridgwater (Backward) Forward Supporters. As they at no time ever and I mean ever, did they have any input or alternative schemes. Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

8:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
If anyone would like to read the facts of the Town Green case they're here.

https://sites.google

.com/site/bridgwater

westoverweb/news/tow

ngreenhearinggoesahe

addespiteresidentsno

-show
Cllr Smedley, how can you post!!
The facts of the case, the 2 people who brought the action, decided not to turn up, what a waste of Taxpayers money, o yes SCC will face the Bill for this, which in turn means us on next years Tax Set by County.
Cllr Smedley, how can these be the facts of the case when the Barristers need 2 weeks to make his written Submissions, to the Inspector, then I would expect then poss another 4-6 weeks for the Inspectors findings to be made public.
Brian, you and the BBF Group have lost this one, why don't you put your efforts into Securing A Post Office in Bridgwater town Fore St or High St.
Make sure you and your fellow Labour Councillors have your Speedo's ready for next Friday's opening of Bridgwaters New Pool., oh I forgot, you voted against it !!! Sorry

David LPreece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Brian Smedley[/bold] wrote: If anyone would like to read the facts of the Town Green case they're here. https://sites.google .com/site/bridgwater westoverweb/news/tow ngreenhearinggoesahe addespiteresidentsno -show[/p][/quote]Cllr Smedley, how can you post!! The facts of the case, the 2 people who brought the action, decided not to turn up, what a waste of Taxpayers money, o yes SCC will face the Bill for this, which in turn means us on next years Tax Set by County. Cllr Smedley, how can these be the facts of the case when the Barristers need 2 weeks to make his written Submissions, to the Inspector, then I would expect then poss another 4-6 weeks for the Inspectors findings to be made public. Brian, you and the BBF Group have lost this one, why don't you put your efforts into Securing A Post Office in Bridgwater town Fore St or High St. Make sure you and your fellow Labour Councillors have your Speedo's ready for next Friday's opening of Bridgwaters New Pool., oh I forgot, you voted against it !!! Sorry David LPreece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

8:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?
Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas? ianeggbert

8:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?
"Clear a path, I'M GOING HOME " !!
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?[/p][/quote]"Clear a path, I'M GOING HOME " !! windswept and interesting

9:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13

notasnarrowmindedasmost says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?
Now that started with road rage didnt it .......Oooopps look out someone will be getting their solicitor
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?[/p][/quote]Now that started with road rage didnt it .......Oooopps look out someone will be getting their solicitor notasnarrowmindedasmost

9:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13

notasnarrowmindedasmost says...

cidreman wrote:
Blue Owl
you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ...
The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ...
At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings .
Cidreman are you Blue Fowls love child? ......or Blue Fowls alter ego ?
[quote][p][bold]cidreman[/bold] wrote: Blue Owl you should be quite chuffed with yourself ...The Labour group divided and unable to change any major planning applications within there own Town council areas ... The leader of Labour group seems to backing the Meads development ..but the rest of the Labour group are saying no .! ... At least you had the guts to go and say your piece at the council meetings .[/p][/quote]Cidreman are you Blue Fowls love child? ......or Blue Fowls alter ego ? notasnarrowmindedasmost

9:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13

notasnarrowmindedasmost says...

cidreman wrote:
Its so quite from the Bridgwater Town Council Labour Cllrs and the Forward Backward Group ....Surely Cllr Smedley& Co would of had something to say about the way the vote went ..with one of his own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of Tesco being built
Whats next ...for the Labour group , must be something they can stop ..
O I forgot they cant because they have no power within SDC .
Echo......
[quote][p][bold]cidreman[/bold] wrote: Its so quite from the Bridgwater Town Council Labour Cllrs and the Forward Backward Group ....Surely Cllr Smedley& Co would of had something to say about the way the vote went ..with one of his own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of Tesco being built Whats next ...for the Labour group , must be something they can stop .. O I forgot they cant because they have no power within SDC .[/p][/quote]Echo...... notasnarrowmindedasmost

9:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage.
Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage. BaldCarl2

1:14am Thu 21 Feb 13

albertfudpucker says...

Roads are not the issue shitewater is already at a standstill without the extra traffic brought about by the future projects. A lot of that could be avoided by buying a lump of land from dunball to canning ton but why should I state the obvious. Next stop voting for the useless fossils and start electing progressive thinking cllrs. The longer the useless like Morley and smedley run the council the more chance you have of bridgwater retarded oops sorry forward ruining the chance of this town developing into something better. At the end of the day it's a dog toilet with the worst kids park in bridgwater that smells of bonio most of the time due to BAF build and let them come. If you want change start to vote for it
Roads are not the issue shitewater is already at a standstill without the extra traffic brought about by the future projects. A lot of that could be avoided by buying a lump of land from dunball to canning ton but why should I state the obvious. Next stop voting for the useless fossils and start electing progressive thinking cllrs. The longer the useless like Morley and smedley run the council the more chance you have of bridgwater retarded oops sorry forward ruining the chance of this town developing into something better. At the end of the day it's a dog toilet with the worst kids park in bridgwater that smells of bonio most of the time due to BAF build and let them come. If you want change start to vote for it albertfudpucker

7:43am Thu 21 Feb 13

Hombre says...

It seems that the Labour group are asking for new development, but when development is proposed such as new houses, Tesco or Hinkley, they are against it!
I am a little confused. What developments are the Labour people asking for?
And as for a green lung, that used to be a brewery, hardly a green space.
RIP Starkey Knight and Ford (AKA the 3 musketeers).
It seems that the Labour group are asking for new development, but when development is proposed such as new houses, Tesco or Hinkley, they are against it! I am a little confused. What developments are the Labour people asking for? And as for a green lung, that used to be a brewery, hardly a green space. RIP Starkey Knight and Ford (AKA the 3 musketeers). Hombre

9:24am Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

albertfudpucker wrote:
Roads are not the issue shitewater is already at a standstill without the extra traffic brought about by the future projects. A lot of that could be avoided by buying a lump of land from dunball to canning ton but why should I state the obvious. Next stop voting for the useless fossils and start electing progressive thinking cllrs. The longer the useless like Morley and smedley run the council the more chance you have of bridgwater retarded oops sorry forward ruining the chance of this town developing into something better. At the end of the day it's a dog toilet with the worst kids park in bridgwater that smells of bonio most of the time due to BAF build and let them come. If you want change start to vote for it
Well said!
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]albertfudpucker[/bold] wrote: Roads are not the issue shitewater is already at a standstill without the extra traffic brought about by the future projects. A lot of that could be avoided by buying a lump of land from dunball to canning ton but why should I state the obvious. Next stop voting for the useless fossils and start electing progressive thinking cllrs. The longer the useless like Morley and smedley run the council the more chance you have of bridgwater retarded oops sorry forward ruining the chance of this town developing into something better. At the end of the day it's a dog toilet with the worst kids park in bridgwater that smells of bonio most of the time due to BAF build and let them come. If you want change start to vote for it[/p][/quote]Well said! Blue-Owl Blue Owl

9:41am Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Hombre wrote:
It seems that the Labour group are asking for new development, but when development is proposed such as new houses, Tesco or Hinkley, they are against it!
I am a little confused. What developments are the Labour people asking for?
And as for a green lung, that used to be a brewery, hardly a green space.
RIP Starkey Knight and Ford (AKA the 3 musketeers).
Hombre, exactly, over the last 10 yrs since the Ressurection of the Labour love child, Bridgwater T Council, we have very little done by them to actually improve the Town! Yes they allocate OUR money, via TCouncil Rate set, for worthy causes, such as Museum, Xmas lights, Firework display, all to local groups, which are unable to be funded as in the past from SDC, due to the Funding Gaps, from Central Gvnt.
But, as I've asked b4 when are they going to Spend and on what Projects the Town Council So Called Civic Enhancement Fund, sat in the Bank??!!
Someone posted a week or so ago, that they must keep a reserve fund?!
Why, this money, is not and was not part of the main Town Council Rate Set, it was an addiditional Charge to Bridgwater Residents for Civic Enhancement Projects! SDC spent £1 Million on the Town Hall Island Site, the Town Council, criticised us the Conservative Group on Sedgemoor.
We did what was asked when funding could be allocated to the Town Hall .
What, Bridgwater Town Cllrs are not telling you, when they criticise SDC ,is that they will get 3 Traunches of Aprox
£330.000 for access land the Town Council own on Bristol Rd.
Almost another £1,000.000 going into the Coffers!
It's our Money, the Residents of Bridgwater, lets see it being used on worthy projects.!!
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Hombre[/bold] wrote: It seems that the Labour group are asking for new development, but when development is proposed such as new houses, Tesco or Hinkley, they are against it! I am a little confused. What developments are the Labour people asking for? And as for a green lung, that used to be a brewery, hardly a green space. RIP Starkey Knight and Ford (AKA the 3 musketeers).[/p][/quote]Hombre, exactly, over the last 10 yrs since the Ressurection of the Labour love child, Bridgwater T Council, we have very little done by them to actually improve the Town! Yes they allocate OUR money, via TCouncil Rate set, for worthy causes, such as Museum, Xmas lights, Firework display, all to local groups, which are unable to be funded as in the past from SDC, due to the Funding Gaps, from Central Gvnt. But, as I've asked b4 when are they going to Spend and on what Projects the Town Council So Called Civic Enhancement Fund, sat in the Bank??!! Someone posted a week or so ago, that they must keep a reserve fund?! Why, this money, is not and was not part of the main Town Council Rate Set, it was an addiditional Charge to Bridgwater Residents for Civic Enhancement Projects! SDC spent £1 Million on the Town Hall Island Site, the Town Council, criticised us the Conservative Group on Sedgemoor. We did what was asked when funding could be allocated to the Town Hall . What, Bridgwater Town Cllrs are not telling you, when they criticise SDC ,is that they will get 3 Traunches of Aprox £330.000 for access land the Town Council own on Bristol Rd. Almost another £1,000.000 going into the Coffers! It's our Money, the Residents of Bridgwater, lets see it being used on worthy projects.!! David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

9:45am Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

BaldCarl2 wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage.
BaldCarl, change the record, I have noticed that your input to this Forum is NIL, you add nothing to the Topic, you must live a real sad existence if all you can do is Post nonsensical replies.
Blue-owl.
[quote][p][bold]BaldCarl2[/bold] wrote: Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage.[/p][/quote]BaldCarl, change the record, I have noticed that your input to this Forum is NIL, you add nothing to the Topic, you must live a real sad existence if all you can do is Post nonsensical replies. Blue-owl. Blue Owl

10:14am Thu 21 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Blue Owl wrote:
BaldCarl2 wrote:
Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent.

I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage.
BaldCarl, change the record, I have noticed that your input to this Forum is NIL, you add nothing to the Topic, you must live a real sad existence if all you can do is Post nonsensical replies.
Blue-owl.
"nonsensical replies"..POT KETTLE !!
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BaldCarl2[/bold] wrote: Has anyone ever noticed that Blue Owl always has to have the last word. It's a bit like a little child arguing with a parent. I wouldn't at all be surprised if he is partial to a bit if the old road rage.[/p][/quote]BaldCarl, change the record, I have noticed that your input to this Forum is NIL, you add nothing to the Topic, you must live a real sad existence if all you can do is Post nonsensical replies. Blue-owl.[/p][/quote]"nonsensical replies"..POT KETTLE !! windswept and interesting

10:26am Thu 21 Feb 13

RustyKnight says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
ianeggbert wrote:
Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?
"Clear a path, I'M GOING HOME " !!
Go quickly before Tesco build a bl**dy great superstore across your path!

David Pre... sorry, Blue Owl says I'm missing the point, I don't think he knows where the point is and I can't wait to hear what he has to say in 5 years time when Tesco have killed Bridgwater town centre off completely!

I wonder if he'd be so "Tesco is going to make Bridgwater a wonderful place" if he lived in say Anson Way, or had to travel along Northgate to get to work?
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: Has anyone ever seen the film Falling Down starring Michael Douglas?[/p][/quote]"Clear a path, I'M GOING HOME " !![/p][/quote]Go quickly before Tesco build a bl**dy great superstore across your path! David Pre... sorry, Blue Owl says I'm missing the point, I don't think he knows where the point is and I can't wait to hear what he has to say in 5 years time when Tesco have killed Bridgwater town centre off completely! I wonder if he'd be so "Tesco is going to make Bridgwater a wonderful place" if he lived in say Anson Way, or had to travel along Northgate to get to work? RustyKnight

10:29am Thu 21 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Blue Owl
It is interesting to note ...Traffic problems being mentioned by some Cllrs once Tesco is built ....but am I mistaken that the same Cllrs are in favour of closing of West Quay and also in the future Salmon Parade & possibly Eastover .
The same Cllrs that have allowed Bridgwaters Post Office to be run out of a Port a Cabin ..A good council would of used some of the £247 , 000 pounds of the Civic Enhancement Fund to be used in leasing a shop in the town centre ...but ha-ho its not want the Forward Backward wants so Cllr Smedley &Co have not fought for it ...instead they have targeted Tesco
Will the Mayor of Bridgwater open the New Pool (Labour Cllr against it )
Blue Owl It is interesting to note ...Traffic problems being mentioned by some Cllrs once Tesco is built ....but am I mistaken that the same Cllrs are in favour of closing of West Quay and also in the future Salmon Parade & possibly Eastover . The same Cllrs that have allowed Bridgwaters Post Office to be run out of a Port a Cabin ..A good council would of used some of the £247 , 000 pounds of the Civic Enhancement Fund to be used in leasing a shop in the town centre ...but ha-ho its not want the Forward Backward wants so Cllr Smedley &Co have not fought for it ...instead they have targeted Tesco Will the Mayor of Bridgwater open the New Pool (Labour Cllr against it ) cidreman

10:39am Thu 21 Feb 13

cidreman says...

I forgot to ask ...
Cllr Smedley what are your comments regarding the way the vote went last week ..
What are your views regarding one of your own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of the Tesco Store being built ...against the Labour Group pledge to stop it ....
Oh Cllr ...whats happened to the BMX and Skatepark ...any news or have you been to busy with the Forward Backward group stopping Tesco to think about the youngsters of the Town ...I expect you will be sorting out parking permits next ..
I forgot to ask ... Cllr Smedley what are your comments regarding the way the vote went last week .. What are your views regarding one of your own Labour Cllrs voting in favour of the Tesco Store being built ...against the Labour Group pledge to stop it .... Oh Cllr ...whats happened to the BMX and Skatepark ...any news or have you been to busy with the Forward Backward group stopping Tesco to think about the youngsters of the Town ...I expect you will be sorting out parking permits next .. cidreman

11:53am Thu 21 Feb 13

albertfudpucker says...

With regards rustys comments he obviously has not seen the derelict area of shitewater. If its not a charity mobile phone estate agent there is no proper town centre, angel place has improved due to poundland bring Tesco's and you have footfall which generates cashflow which generates a future for a town dwelling on its dead history. It's time to embrace the future
With regards rustys comments he obviously has not seen the derelict area of shitewater. If its not a charity mobile phone estate agent there is no proper town centre, angel place has improved due to poundland bring Tesco's and you have footfall which generates cashflow which generates a future for a town dwelling on its dead history. It's time to embrace the future albertfudpucker

12:50pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

Oh Albert when all this development that you so want happens perhaps you could get a job cleaning peoples car windows because there will be hundreds of cars just trapped in gridlock who will offer plenty of opportunities. Whilst dear Cidreman it is nice to see you making such a good fist of doing Blue Fowls work for him all we are missing is your life story.
Oh Albert when all this development that you so want happens perhaps you could get a job cleaning peoples car windows because there will be hundreds of cars just trapped in gridlock who will offer plenty of opportunities. Whilst dear Cidreman it is nice to see you making such a good fist of doing Blue Fowls work for him all we are missing is your life story. Bridgy old Boy

1:11pm Thu 21 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Oh Albert when all this development that you so want happens perhaps you could get a job cleaning peoples car windows because there will be hundreds of cars just trapped in gridlock who will offer plenty of opportunities. Whilst dear Cidreman it is nice to see you making such a good fist of doing Blue Fowls work for him all we are missing is your life story.
Please no...too much information !
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Oh Albert when all this development that you so want happens perhaps you could get a job cleaning peoples car windows because there will be hundreds of cars just trapped in gridlock who will offer plenty of opportunities. Whilst dear Cidreman it is nice to see you making such a good fist of doing Blue Fowls work for him all we are missing is your life story.[/p][/quote]Please no...too much information ! windswept and interesting

1:17pm Thu 21 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Dear Bridgy old Boy
It great to see ...your views Gridlock where ..If labour Cllrs have their way the whole of the Town centre will be traffic free..West Quay ..Salmon Parade (Hospital Side ) Eastover .
Old Boy ..its nice to see the Labour Cllr voting for Tesco.
Shame the other one had to leave the meeting ...But I wonder if the Bridgwater Mayor will open the New Swimming pool ..No he wouldnt , would he , being a Labour Cllr against it being built ! ...what do you say Old Boy .
Dear Bridgy old Boy It great to see ...your views Gridlock where ..If labour Cllrs have their way the whole of the Town centre will be traffic free..West Quay ..Salmon Parade (Hospital Side ) Eastover . Old Boy ..its nice to see the Labour Cllr voting for Tesco. Shame the other one had to leave the meeting ...But I wonder if the Bridgwater Mayor will open the New Swimming pool ..No he wouldnt , would he , being a Labour Cllr against it being built ! ...what do you say Old Boy . cidreman

4:13pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

cidreman wrote:
Blue Owl
It is interesting to note ...Traffic problems being mentioned by some Cllrs once Tesco is built ....but am I mistaken that the same Cllrs are in favour of closing of West Quay and also in the future Salmon Parade & possibly Eastover .
The same Cllrs that have allowed Bridgwaters Post Office to be run out of a Port a Cabin ..A good council would of used some of the £247 , 000 pounds of the Civic Enhancement Fund to be used in leasing a shop in the town centre ...but ha-ho its not want the Forward Backward wants so Cllr Smedley &Co have not fought for it ...instead they have targeted Tesco
Will the Mayor of Bridgwater open the New Pool (Labour Cllr against it )
Cidreman, there is as you see double standards, there are Elections coming up very soon, they are all rattling their Labour Ballot Papers. Did you pickup on the Post I made re another £ 1 million Pounds going into the Town Council Coffers, !!!?
For now over 10 years the TownCouncils day today running Costs have been in excess of £250.000 Pounds, in the running costs of the Town Clerks Office alone. For what??????
official figures for Bridgwater Popuation is now, 50.000.
Now there are 13 out of 15 Town Councillors Labour, with only Cllrs Slocombe and Baker Conservative.
You bet that will all be there, @ the Pool Opening, and Bridgwater Backward Forward will probably protesting outside, with their Banners, held High by Cllr Smedley and Co.
Must Twitter Orf now, Blue -Owl
[quote][p][bold]cidreman[/bold] wrote: Blue Owl It is interesting to note ...Traffic problems being mentioned by some Cllrs once Tesco is built ....but am I mistaken that the same Cllrs are in favour of closing of West Quay and also in the future Salmon Parade & possibly Eastover . The same Cllrs that have allowed Bridgwaters Post Office to be run out of a Port a Cabin ..A good council would of used some of the £247 , 000 pounds of the Civic Enhancement Fund to be used in leasing a shop in the town centre ...but ha-ho its not want the Forward Backward wants so Cllr Smedley &Co have not fought for it ...instead they have targeted Tesco Will the Mayor of Bridgwater open the New Pool (Labour Cllr against it )[/p][/quote]Cidreman, there is as you see double standards, there are Elections coming up very soon, they are all rattling their Labour Ballot Papers. Did you pickup on the Post I made re another £ 1 million Pounds going into the Town Council Coffers, !!!? For now over 10 years the TownCouncils day today running Costs have been in excess of £250.000 Pounds, in the running costs of the Town Clerks Office alone. For what?????? official figures for Bridgwater Popuation is now, 50.000. Now there are 13 out of 15 Town Councillors Labour, with only Cllrs Slocombe and Baker Conservative. You bet that will all be there, @ the Pool Opening, and Bridgwater Backward Forward will probably protesting outside, with their Banners, held High by Cllr Smedley and Co. Must Twitter Orf now, Blue -Owl Blue Owl

4:38pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

Good point Blue Fowl the Mayor of Bridgwater should indeed be invited to open the pool for if it was not for the Labour controlled Town Council making the former allotment land next to the school available there would have been no room to build the pool. Of course that decision was made when it was intended that the Splash remain open until the new pool was ready. Well that was the idea until you and your Tory cronies no doubt backed up by the likes of your chum Cidreman shut the Splash and deprived the pool of Bridgwater of a public swimming pool for 3 years.
Good point Blue Fowl the Mayor of Bridgwater should indeed be invited to open the pool for if it was not for the Labour controlled Town Council making the former allotment land next to the school available there would have been no room to build the pool. Of course that decision was made when it was intended that the Splash remain open until the new pool was ready. Well that was the idea until you and your Tory cronies no doubt backed up by the likes of your chum Cidreman shut the Splash and deprived the pool of Bridgwater of a public swimming pool for 3 years. Bridgy old Boy

5:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....
I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up.... Samej1

5:55pm Thu 21 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Samej1 wrote:
I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....
So is the imaginary friend count ....
[quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....[/p][/quote]So is the imaginary friend count .... windswept and interesting

6:40pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Samej1 wrote:
I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....
So is the imaginary friend count ....
It's compelling in a somewhat uneasy way
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....[/p][/quote]So is the imaginary friend count ....[/p][/quote]It's compelling in a somewhat uneasy way Samej1

6:49pm Thu 21 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

Samej1 wrote:
windswept and interesting wrote:
Samej1 wrote:
I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....
So is the imaginary friend count ....
It's compelling in a somewhat uneasy way
compelling in the same way that cliffs tend to draw you towards the edge....
[quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: I reckon the sock puppet count on this thread is going up....[/p][/quote]So is the imaginary friend count ....[/p][/quote]It's compelling in a somewhat uneasy way[/p][/quote]compelling in the same way that cliffs tend to draw you towards the edge.... ianeggbert

7:53pm Thu 21 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

The count on this forum will always increase until Blue Owl has the last word.

He suffers from forum rage
The count on this forum will always increase until Blue Owl has the last word. He suffers from forum rage BaldCarl2

10:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Good point Blue Fowl the Mayor of Bridgwater should indeed be invited to open the pool for if it was not for the Labour controlled Town Council making the former allotment land next to the school available there would have been no room to build the pool. Of course that decision was made when it was intended that the Splash remain open until the new pool was ready. Well that was the idea until you and your Tory cronies no doubt backed up by the likes of your chum Cidreman shut the Splash and deprived the pool of Bridgwater of a public swimming pool for 3 years.
So you would rather have SDC spend
£700.000 a year, on the Splash for 3 years, then to have to try and find up to £4 Miillion on essential repairs under Health & Fitness Criteria, to bring a 20+year old structure to a standard acceptable to increase a further possible 10yr life.
So we would end up with a fun pool, that SDC had to subsidise every user for £3.00 to swim.
Sounds like the kind of financial nonsense that Bridgwater(Backward) Forward & Cllr Smedley & Co would back.
They the Labour Group had every opportunity to give viable alternative scheme's, they had none to offer, even if they proposed something feasible, it could have been considered, but No, like every meeting I attended, over 8 years, including Annual Budget Forcast, for the New financial years, they did'nt even suggest alternative spending budgets, or the Liberal 3 Members, who always voted and sided with their true allies, the Labour Group on SDC.
Yes we did close the pool, to save over the 3 years as you say, £2 Million
Which was ring fenced to go towards the cost of the New Pool.
In an Ideal world, we would have liked to keep the Splash open, until a New pool was available. But, we found that it was not viable, that's the reality of making tough decisions, when in Control of Councils finances, the Labour group, would do as Blair and Brown in Central Govnment, spend spend spend, promise every thing to all, let some one else deal with consequences, as David Cameron & George Osbourne are having to do in London.
Just consider the alternatives, Labour Cllrs in Control of SDC. It does'nt bear thinking about. The consequences would be a nightmare!!!!!!!
Regards Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Good point Blue Fowl the Mayor of Bridgwater should indeed be invited to open the pool for if it was not for the Labour controlled Town Council making the former allotment land next to the school available there would have been no room to build the pool. Of course that decision was made when it was intended that the Splash remain open until the new pool was ready. Well that was the idea until you and your Tory cronies no doubt backed up by the likes of your chum Cidreman shut the Splash and deprived the pool of Bridgwater of a public swimming pool for 3 years.[/p][/quote]So you would rather have SDC spend £700.000 a year, on the Splash for 3 years, then to have to try and find up to £4 Miillion on essential repairs under Health & Fitness Criteria, to bring a 20+year old structure to a standard acceptable to increase a further possible 10yr life. So we would end up with a fun pool, that SDC had to subsidise every user for £3.00 to swim. Sounds like the kind of financial nonsense that Bridgwater(Backward) Forward & Cllr Smedley & Co would back. They the Labour Group had every opportunity to give viable alternative scheme's, they had none to offer, even if they proposed something feasible, it could have been considered, but No, like every meeting I attended, over 8 years, including Annual Budget Forcast, for the New financial years, they did'nt even suggest alternative spending budgets, or the Liberal 3 Members, who always voted and sided with their true allies, the Labour Group on SDC. Yes we did close the pool, to save over the 3 years as you say, £2 Million Which was ring fenced to go towards the cost of the New Pool. In an Ideal world, we would have liked to keep the Splash open, until a New pool was available. But, we found that it was not viable, that's the reality of making tough decisions, when in Control of Councils finances, the Labour group, would do as Blair and Brown in Central Govnment, spend spend spend, promise every thing to all, let some one else deal with consequences, as David Cameron & George Osbourne are having to do in London. Just consider the alternatives, Labour Cllrs in Control of SDC. It does'nt bear thinking about. The consequences would be a nightmare!!!!!!! Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

11:07pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

BaldCarl2 wrote:
The count on this forum will always increase until Blue Owl has the last word.

He suffers from forum rage
BaldCarl, you and your little posse of post crew, stick together like a bunch of school kids, afraid you'll be left out of the gang, one post's. the next endorses that post, the next self congratulate and so on. It is quite pathetic to see. You seem intent on bringing up, RAGE, are u obsessed, get it into your mindset, the charges were never proved, the case was discharged, the Jury was thanked and dismissed, in this Country one is innocent, until found guilty. The three day case was halted after 3 hours, as the so-called fabricated Story, from Ms Lea 's was found to be in the Judges words " Contradicting & Confliting with another witness for the prosecution.
Why do you insist, on trying to drag up past history to Libel me.
Why the Judge decided to Bind me over, only he can say, he read the lies, she told about me supposedly going to her house. LIES!!! So, my Barrister, did'nt give me the right and correct advise, so in accepting the Binding over Order, it was only against her. For 2 years, that was 7 years ago, so why 5 years on, keep dragging it up. Do you not think in a Town this size, if I had done ,what I was accused of, I could still be a Member of Society, accepted in all aspects of Business, Social, Leisure Society!!! You are the sad Billy no mates, who has to dwell on the past, I've moved on, I suggest you do so.
So, now you see I have the last word, as I will not let your posts go unanswered when you cast your sad views aimed at me!!
As I've said b4, get a life, that goes for the rest of the sad posters, on this forum. The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post, and I try and balance the debated subject with facts and info, instead of insults.
Regards Blue-Owl
Twit-To Woo, Hoot Hoot
[quote][p][bold]BaldCarl2[/bold] wrote: The count on this forum will always increase until Blue Owl has the last word. He suffers from forum rage[/p][/quote]BaldCarl, you and your little posse of post crew, stick together like a bunch of school kids, afraid you'll be left out of the gang, one post's. the next endorses that post, the next self congratulate and so on. It is quite pathetic to see. You seem intent on bringing up, RAGE, are u obsessed, get it into your mindset, the charges were never proved, the case was discharged, the Jury was thanked and dismissed, in this Country one is innocent, until found guilty. The three day case was halted after 3 hours, as the so-called fabricated Story, from Ms Lea 's was found to be in the Judges words " Contradicting & Confliting with another witness for the prosecution. Why do you insist, on trying to drag up past history to Libel me. Why the Judge decided to Bind me over, only he can say, he read the lies, she told about me supposedly going to her house. LIES!!! So, my Barrister, did'nt give me the right and correct advise, so in accepting the Binding over Order, it was only against her. For 2 years, that was 7 years ago, so why 5 years on, keep dragging it up. Do you not think in a Town this size, if I had done ,what I was accused of, I could still be a Member of Society, accepted in all aspects of Business, Social, Leisure Society!!! You are the sad Billy no mates, who has to dwell on the past, I've moved on, I suggest you do so. So, now you see I have the last word, as I will not let your posts go unanswered when you cast your sad views aimed at me!! As I've said b4, get a life, that goes for the rest of the sad posters, on this forum. The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post, and I try and balance the debated subject with facts and info, instead of insults. Regards Blue-Owl Twit-To Woo, Hoot Hoot Blue Owl

11:34pm Thu 21 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

......."The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post.........."

To quote Meatloaf "You took the words right out of my mouth"
......."The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post.........." To quote Meatloaf "You took the words right out of my mouth" windswept and interesting

9:34am Fri 22 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Old Boy ...tell us all in the past 10 years +What have the Labour Group done for Bridgwaters regeneration ..what have they done for the youngsters within the Town .
The Labour Group can not even agree on the Building of the Tesco store..even within its own Cllrs ...take a look around the Town , its not happened over night shop closures , but the Labour group have the majority of control on the Town Council ..same Town clerk for the past 10 years
Old Boy ...tell us all in the past 10 years +What have the Labour Group done for Bridgwaters regeneration ..what have they done for the youngsters within the Town . The Labour Group can not even agree on the Building of the Tesco store..even within its own Cllrs ...take a look around the Town , its not happened over night shop closures , but the Labour group have the majority of control on the Town Council ..same Town clerk for the past 10 years cidreman

3:46pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time:
Maintain the cemetery's
Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road
Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang
Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall.
Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset
Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families.
Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed.

I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum.

From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?
Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time: Maintain the cemetery's Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall. Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families. Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed. I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum. From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to? Bridgy old Boy

4:07pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time:
Maintain the cemetery's
Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road
Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang
Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall.
Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset
Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families.
Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed.

I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum.

From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?
"Like" :)
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time: Maintain the cemetery's Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall. Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families. Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed. I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum. From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?[/p][/quote]"Like" :) Samej1

5:00pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
......."The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post.........."

To quote Meatloaf "You took the words right out of my mouth"
So why don't you post something
Windswept& interesting, all you can post is slurs??
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: ......."The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post.........." To quote Meatloaf "You took the words right out of my mouth"[/p][/quote]So why don't you post something Windswept& interesting, all you can post is slurs?? Blue-Owl Blue Owl

5:19pm Fri 22 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Firstly Blue Ostrich I have not posted "slurs" as you put them ! You brought up last night ( at great length) for the umpteenth time your well documented "incident" of a few years back. I have never mentioned that in any post, even though you have accused a number of people of doing so !

Secondly how you have the audacity and arrogance to make the comment "The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post" is totally beyond me and most others.

It is obvious from your many postings of late, which have become more and more garbled and nonsensical on a daily basis, that you are deluded and obsessed to the point that lateral thinking has gone out of the window.

Just read some of the rubbish you are writing, or get someone to read it back slowly to you....it makes no sense !

For my part I really don't want to be part of your circus act any more so will gracefully withdraw from responding directly to any of your posts in future.

You will probably take it as an admission of defeat on my part, let's just say it is more an act of human kindness !
Firstly Blue Ostrich I have not posted "slurs" as you put them ! You brought up last night ( at great length) for the umpteenth time your well documented "incident" of a few years back. I have never mentioned that in any post, even though you have accused a number of people of doing so ! Secondly how you have the audacity and arrogance to make the comment "The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post" is totally beyond me and most others. It is obvious from your many postings of late, which have become more and more garbled and nonsensical on a daily basis, that you are deluded and obsessed to the point that lateral thinking has gone out of the window. Just read some of the rubbish you are writing, or get someone to read it back slowly to you....it makes no sense ! For my part I really don't want to be part of your circus act any more so will gracefully withdraw from responding directly to any of your posts in future. You will probably take it as an admission of defeat on my part, let's just say it is more an act of human kindness ! windswept and interesting

6:50pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time:
Maintain the cemetery's
Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road
Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang
Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall.
Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset
Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families.
Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed.

I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum.

From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?
Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility.
Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!!
Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council.
I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects..
Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for.........
" quote" Finance Chairman's Comment
When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for.
Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!??
My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000
Before, passing it over to BTC.
The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt
After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more.
How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !!
When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT.
We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on.......
Blue-Owl
David L Preece
[quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time: Maintain the cemetery's Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall. Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families. Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed. I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum. From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?[/p][/quote]Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility. Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!! Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council. I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects.. Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for......... " quote" Finance Chairman's Comment When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for. Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!?? My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000 Before, passing it over to BTC. The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more. How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !! When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT. We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on....... Blue-Owl David L Preece Blue Owl

6:54pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Firstly Blue Ostrich I have not posted "slurs" as you put them ! You brought up last night ( at great length) for the umpteenth time your well documented "incident" of a few years back. I have never mentioned that in any post, even though you have accused a number of people of doing so !

Secondly how you have the audacity and arrogance to make the comment "The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post" is totally beyond me and most others.

It is obvious from your many postings of late, which have become more and more garbled and nonsensical on a daily basis, that you are deluded and obsessed to the point that lateral thinking has gone out of the window.

Just read some of the rubbish you are writing, or get someone to read it back slowly to you....it makes no sense !

For my part I really don't want to be part of your circus act any more so will gracefully withdraw from responding directly to any of your posts in future.

You will probably take it as an admission of defeat on my part, let's just say it is more an act of human kindness !
I don't want or need you to respond to my posts, all I ask is that you post something original, not just like your fellow posters. Reply and criticise only.
David L Preece
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: Firstly Blue Ostrich I have not posted "slurs" as you put them ! You brought up last night ( at great length) for the umpteenth time your well documented "incident" of a few years back. I have never mentioned that in any post, even though you have accused a number of people of doing so ! Secondly how you have the audacity and arrogance to make the comment "The reason posts are so many, is because of the crap you post" is totally beyond me and most others. It is obvious from your many postings of late, which have become more and more garbled and nonsensical on a daily basis, that you are deluded and obsessed to the point that lateral thinking has gone out of the window. Just read some of the rubbish you are writing, or get someone to read it back slowly to you....it makes no sense ! For my part I really don't want to be part of your circus act any more so will gracefully withdraw from responding directly to any of your posts in future. You will probably take it as an admission of defeat on my part, let's just say it is more an act of human kindness ![/p][/quote]I don't want or need you to respond to my posts, all I ask is that you post something original, not just like your fellow posters. Reply and criticise only. David L Preece Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:32pm Fri 22 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

Blue Owl wrote:
Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time:
Maintain the cemetery's
Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road
Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang
Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall.
Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset
Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families.
Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed.

I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum.

From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?
Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility.
Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!!
Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council.
I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects..
Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for.........
" quote" Finance Chairman's Comment
When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for.
Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!??
My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000
Before, passing it over to BTC.
The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt
After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more.
How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !!
When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT.
We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on.......
Blue-Owl
David L Preece
Blue Fowl,

Slightly off topic I admit, but as is the wont of most politicians to blame and disagree with views from whichever party is making a claim or statement, can you please explain how Cameron, Osborne and the other Bullingdon haw hee haws are going to magic away the £1billion shortfall in the 4g auction revenue?

It's going to take a rather large carpet to sweep that one under wouldn't you think?

Go on, blame Blair & brown again as it doesn't half make I larf!

Ianiamconsiderablymo
recherentthanyoueggb
ert
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time: Maintain the cemetery's Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall. Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families. Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed. I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum. From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?[/p][/quote]Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility. Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!! Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council. I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects.. Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for......... " quote" Finance Chairman's Comment When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for. Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!?? My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000 Before, passing it over to BTC. The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more. How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !! When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT. We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on....... Blue-Owl David L Preece[/p][/quote]Blue Fowl, Slightly off topic I admit, but as is the wont of most politicians to blame and disagree with views from whichever party is making a claim or statement, can you please explain how Cameron, Osborne and the other Bullingdon haw hee haws are going to magic away the £1billion shortfall in the 4g auction revenue? It's going to take a rather large carpet to sweep that one under wouldn't you think? Go on, blame Blair & brown again as it doesn't half make I larf! Ianiamconsiderablymo recherentthanyoueggb ert ianeggbert

10:01pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
Bridgy old Boy wrote:
Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time:
Maintain the cemetery's
Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road
Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang
Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall.
Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset
Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families.
Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed.

I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum.

From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?
Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility.
Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!!
Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council.
I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects..
Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for.........
" quote" Finance Chairman's Comment
When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for.
Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!??
My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000
Before, passing it over to BTC.
The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt
After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more.
How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !!
When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT.
We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on.......
Blue-Owl
David L Preece
Blue Fowl,

Slightly off topic I admit, but as is the wont of most politicians to blame and disagree with views from whichever party is making a claim or statement, can you please explain how Cameron, Osborne and the other Bullingdon haw hee haws are going to magic away the £1billion shortfall in the 4g auction revenue?

It's going to take a rather large carpet to sweep that one under wouldn't you think?

Go on, blame Blair & brown again as it doesn't half make I larf!

Ianiamconsiderablymo

recherentthanyoueggb

ert
Of Course, it is very dissapointing not to realise the predicted or expected price realised when it is put out to a tendering Auction.
It's a buyers market, in what ever commodity that is offered to the Market. To you and I £1 Billion, sounds a lot, but in the scheme of things, within the overall Government Budget, it will mean that, this shortfall will have to found from elsewhere within Whitehall Departments. The Government is still only paying off the Interest incurred by Blair & Brown. So yes, they should be held to Account, for leaving our Country in such Dire Straits......The truth Hurts!!! But True.
It doesn't make me Lauff, as we all are having to pay one way or another.
Blue-Owl
David L Preece
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bridgy old Boy[/bold] wrote: Ok as you failed to respond to a similiar point made on a previous thread and clearly you need things repeated several times I will say just one more time: Maintain the cemetery's Maintain the allotments including the layout of a new one at Kidsbury Road Saved the Blake Musuem from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang Saved the Town Hall from the savage cuts instituted by Blue Fowl's Tory Gang and even you have to admit one hell of a lot of young people perform in and enjoy events at the Town Hall. Fund the the fantastic Christmas lights display probably the best in Somerset Fund the Carnival Fire Work display on Fairfield enjoy by thousands of young families. Fund the public conveniences without which Blue Fowls Tory Gang would have closed. I could say more but I am aware not everyone has Blue Fowl's time to write and indeed read this forum. From the list provided perhaps you could let the readers know what within the list you strongly object to?[/p][/quote]Bridgeoldboy, You just don't understand, the finances. It was your Labour Governmet, under Blair and Brown, with the other Labour Ministers that implemented the bottom up policies, which said that ' Under the Localism Bill, the fundamental everyday activities that District and County Councils, should be administered from Parish and Town Councils, thus whilst Capping District Councils, they allowed Town & Parish Councils to set a Rate Presept, from the Residents of Bridgwater, to pay for these local services. Thus the Grants that were previously given to organisation from the District Rate Set, were transferred to the Parish, but only those that the BTC wanted too.!! The Cemetarys (Closed ) were always the BTC responsibility. Remember, it is our Rate Set Monies that the Town Council allocate to the worthy Causes, they only administer and give to their Friends!!!!!!!! Yes, there was, the transfer of the Museum, Town Hall to theBTC, along with the other Halls in the Town. As the Town Council, along with the bodies who organise and run these buildings, can and have applied for Grants that were not elegable to these funds, as a District Council. I don't object to your posts, but I felt obliged to clarify the actual situation, as the BTC Cllr's are so fortunate to have OUR money to give away, perhaps they should as the Bridgwater Residents, through their favourite newspaper, the 'Mercury' to have our votes, as to which worthy or not so Worthy Causes, as some of them are definitely are Politically directed to the Labour Cllrs Pet Projects.. Still there's still the " Civic Enhancement Fund" sitting in Natwest earning interest, Oop's silly me, it 's the Town Councils Reserve's!!!! Not the reason it was on the Rate Set to be ring fenced for......... " quote" Finance Chairman's Comment When asked directly by myself, in the Town Hall 'John, what are we going to spend this Reserve Fund for. Answer, " What ever We ( the Labour Group) want too!!!!!?? My conclusion- The Mayors Parlour or Boudoir, It should be spent on the Town Halls Theatre, Foyee, Stage and Back of House area's, for the Acts and Pantomime, Amateur Drams, for the good of all who use the Town Hall. That's why SDC spent £1.000.000 Before, passing it over to BTC. The savage cuts, you refer to.from my Tory chums, are there because Blair and Brown, left our Country, Bankrupt After 13 years, no Gold Reserves, sold when Gold was at it rock bottom price, and then told the stock market, ahead of what they did, to devalue it even more. How many times, do I have to remind you, that under the Tories our Country was the 4 richest in the World Tables of wealth !! When Labour, lost the last Election we were 14th, FACT. We the Tories, are still trying to address the issues now, almost 2 years on....... Blue-Owl David L Preece[/p][/quote]Blue Fowl, Slightly off topic I admit, but as is the wont of most politicians to blame and disagree with views from whichever party is making a claim or statement, can you please explain how Cameron, Osborne and the other Bullingdon haw hee haws are going to magic away the £1billion shortfall in the 4g auction revenue? It's going to take a rather large carpet to sweep that one under wouldn't you think? Go on, blame Blair & brown again as it doesn't half make I larf! Ianiamconsiderablymo recherentthanyoueggb ert[/p][/quote]Of Course, it is very dissapointing not to realise the predicted or expected price realised when it is put out to a tendering Auction. It's a buyers market, in what ever commodity that is offered to the Market. To you and I £1 Billion, sounds a lot, but in the scheme of things, within the overall Government Budget, it will mean that, this shortfall will have to found from elsewhere within Whitehall Departments. The Government is still only paying off the Interest incurred by Blair & Brown. So yes, they should be held to Account, for leaving our Country in such Dire Straits......The truth Hurts!!! But True. It doesn't make me Lauff, as we all are having to pay one way or another. Blue-Owl David L Preece Blue Owl

2:21pm Sat 23 Feb 13

RustyKnight says...

There's a word in internet circles for people like Blue Fowl, that word is "TROLL".
There's a word in internet circles for people like Blue Fowl, that word is "TROLL". RustyKnight

11:41pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Cllr Brian Smedley says...

Now, about these potholes......
Now, about these potholes...... Cllr Brian Smedley

12:10am Sun 24 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Now, about these potholes......
Now, about Tesco's........
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Brian Smedley[/bold] wrote: Now, about these potholes......[/p][/quote]Now, about Tesco's........ windswept and interesting

9:24pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Now, about these potholes......
Oh Councillor, how nice of you to post something!!
As an Elected Councillor, just what have YOU done about the Potholes??
Blue-Owl
I presume you are, actively or not as usual, doing very little.
[quote][p][bold]Cllr Brian Smedley[/bold] wrote: Now, about these potholes......[/p][/quote]Oh Councillor, how nice of you to post something!! As an Elected Councillor, just what have YOU done about the Potholes?? Blue-Owl I presume you are, actively or not as usual, doing very little. Blue Owl

9:35pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
Cllr Brian Smedley wrote:
Now, about these potholes......
Now, about Tesco's........
Yes , Cllr Smedley what about Tesco's
I suppose you have nothing to say, at present, until the Bridgwater Mercury is Published on Tuesday. As you gave your exclusive to the Reporter, after the Public Enquiry Meeting, last Tuesday whilst strolling along Wembdon Road, to the Town.

Blue- Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cllr Brian Smedley[/bold] wrote: Now, about these potholes......[/p][/quote]Now, about Tesco's........[/p][/quote]Yes , Cllr Smedley what about Tesco's I suppose you have nothing to say, at present, until the Bridgwater Mercury is Published on Tuesday. As you gave your exclusive to the Reporter, after the Public Enquiry Meeting, last Tuesday whilst strolling along Wembdon Road, to the Town. Blue- Owl Blue Owl

9:48pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

RustyKnight wrote:
There's a word in internet circles for people like Blue Fowl, that word is "TROLL".
Rustyknight, so now you have joined the list of ' Posts ' that add nothing to a debate, other than being rude,!! And adding derogatory statements, to all whole make opposing views to yours.!
I've posted before, if the cap fits wear it !!
I will continue to 'Post ' when ever I feel , I can add to a debate, if as I am accused of by BaldCarl, as always having to have the last word, so mote it be!!
As if you or any other poster's, have nothing to add, that's worthy or indeed of substance, then that the crux of the debate.
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]RustyKnight[/bold] wrote: There's a word in internet circles for people like Blue Fowl, that word is "TROLL".[/p][/quote]Rustyknight, so now you have joined the list of ' Posts ' that add nothing to a debate, other than being rude,!! And adding derogatory statements, to all whole make opposing views to yours.! I've posted before, if the cap fits wear it !! I will continue to 'Post ' when ever I feel , I can add to a debate, if as I am accused of by BaldCarl, as always having to have the last word, so mote it be!! As if you or any other poster's, have nothing to add, that's worthy or indeed of substance, then that the crux of the debate. Blue-Owl Blue Owl

10:08am Mon 25 Feb 13

RustyKnight says...

* Yawn *
* Yawn * RustyKnight

10:09am Mon 25 Feb 13

RustyKnight says...

I read somewhere that the 11% of the Brewery Field Tesco want is still going to be a field, and they are building stables and an aviary in it!
I read somewhere that the 11% of the Brewery Field Tesco want is still going to be a field, and they are building stables and an aviary in it! RustyKnight

10:28am Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

RustyKnight wrote:
I read somewhere that the 11% of the Brewery Field Tesco want is still going to be a field, and they are building stables and an aviary in it!
That will cut down on their carbon footprint - only a couple of yards to transport the horsemeat :)
[quote][p][bold]RustyKnight[/bold] wrote: I read somewhere that the 11% of the Brewery Field Tesco want is still going to be a field, and they are building stables and an aviary in it![/p][/quote]That will cut down on their carbon footprint - only a couple of yards to transport the horsemeat :) windswept and interesting

12:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13

cidreman says...

£550, 000 budget for the Town council .
Bridgwater tax payers money
Labour controlled council ...no money spent on regeneration of the Town ..no forward plan
a Labour Cllr voting against the views of its on leader ...
every SDC meeting planning etc the labour cllrs are always out voted ...its a farce
Every time Cllr Smedley & Co try and stop something , they always lose
But it always costs the taxpayers ,of Sedgemoor ...another meeting , I bet the labour Cllrs always put in their expense claims after attending these Tesco meetings ..
Some of the £247,000 pounds enhancement fund is earmarked for a Town Council hand out for the improvements of West Quay ...
Old Boy ..once West Quay is closed off ...then possibly Eastover , & Salmon Parade ..No traffic ! ..where is the traffic going to go !
Maybe the whole of Queens St , Chandos Street , King Square should be all closed off ...
Without Eastover , Salmon Parade ..
Traffic will only have Northgate ..dont you think Old Boy ..some of the Town Cllrs are making it a Bottle- neck .
then maybe Blame Tesco.
£550, 000 budget for the Town council . Bridgwater tax payers money Labour controlled council ...no money spent on regeneration of the Town ..no forward plan a Labour Cllr voting against the views of its on leader ... every SDC meeting planning etc the labour cllrs are always out voted ...its a farce Every time Cllr Smedley & Co try and stop something , they always lose But it always costs the taxpayers ,of Sedgemoor ...another meeting , I bet the labour Cllrs always put in their expense claims after attending these Tesco meetings .. Some of the £247,000 pounds enhancement fund is earmarked for a Town Council hand out for the improvements of West Quay ... Old Boy ..once West Quay is closed off ...then possibly Eastover , & Salmon Parade ..No traffic ! ..where is the traffic going to go ! Maybe the whole of Queens St , Chandos Street , King Square should be all closed off ... Without Eastover , Salmon Parade .. Traffic will only have Northgate ..dont you think Old Boy ..some of the Town Cllrs are making it a Bottle- neck . then maybe Blame Tesco. cidreman

12:34pm Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Doppelganger:-

If someone tells you that you have a doppelganger, it’s not really something to worry about. It just means that there’s another person out there in the world that looks a lot like you! The person could be your identical twin (if you have one), or it could just be another person who reminds people a lot of you.
Doppelganger:- If someone tells you that you have a doppelganger, it’s not really something to worry about. It just means that there’s another person out there in the world that looks a lot like you! The person could be your identical twin (if you have one), or it could just be another person who reminds people a lot of you. windswept and interesting

12:53pm Mon 25 Feb 13

cidreman says...

But we are not in the world of Fiction ..
Facts...Labour Cllr voted against his own group .in favour of Tesco being built
Traffic ...being closed to West Quay & Future plans to close off Salmon Parade & Eastover ...
Maybe Cllr Smedley can tell us all about these future road closures
But we are not in the world of Fiction .. Facts...Labour Cllr voted against his own group .in favour of Tesco being built Traffic ...being closed to West Quay & Future plans to close off Salmon Parade & Eastover ... Maybe Cllr Smedley can tell us all about these future road closures cidreman

1:23pm Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Identity theft is a form of stealing someone's identity in which someone pretends to be someone else by assuming that person's identity
Identity theft is a form of stealing someone's identity in which someone pretends to be someone else by assuming that person's identity windswept and interesting

2:33pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

cidreman wrote:
£550, 000 budget for the Town council .
Bridgwater tax payers money
Labour controlled council ...no money spent on regeneration of the Town ..no forward plan
a Labour Cllr voting against the views of its on leader ...
every SDC meeting planning etc the labour cllrs are always out voted ...its a farce
Every time Cllr Smedley & Co try and stop something , they always lose
But it always costs the taxpayers ,of Sedgemoor ...another meeting , I bet the labour Cllrs always put in their expense claims after attending these Tesco meetings ..
Some of the £247,000 pounds enhancement fund is earmarked for a Town Council hand out for the improvements of West Quay ...
Old Boy ..once West Quay is closed off ...then possibly Eastover , & Salmon Parade ..No traffic ! ..where is the traffic going to go !
Maybe the whole of Queens St , Chandos Street , King Square should be all closed off ...
Without Eastover , Salmon Parade ..
Traffic will only have Northgate ..dont you think Old Boy ..some of the Town Cllrs are making it a Bottle- neck .
then maybe Blame Tesco.
The trouble is you just cannot get fact's across to those whose ears and brains are closed, one term is indoctrinated, or blind to all other views and opinion.
Cidreman, you say things as you see them, or read them, I've noticed I the past you comment with balanced mind, commenting where and when you see fit. It is a pity that some on this Forum, are so set in their way, they will "not be moved" wonder where we heard that b4.
There is a Local saying here in Somerset, " you cannot educate pork"
Now not that I'm casting any Nastertion's, Oop 's
I've PRE ordered my Copy of tomorrow's Mercury ,before they sell out, this weeks front page, was balanced or not in it's Headline Article
" A TOWN DIVIDED", So quoting Cllr Smedley and Bridgwater Backward Forward Group Member.
Cllr Brian 'says there are enough supermarkets already- people should'nt have to live like this" does he mean the ability to shop in a new Tesco's Superstore taking the benefits they they are able to deliver for All.
Sally Jones, ' Tesco will kill the Town' Sally on the Contrary, Tesco' s will breathe must needed investment in this Town, you and your fellow(s) BBF friends, are out of step with 2013- 25
We must strive to get as much investment into our Town of Bridgwater, as the decline of manufacturing, across the Town has long since died, BCL, Cryptons, Leffmans, Bridgwater Jam Factory, and all the others, to numerous to list.
So, Sally now what are you and your Bridgwater (Backward) So Called Forward ,now going to oppose, Oh course it won't be the pedestrianation of West Quay, and Easover. Because in your minds, stopping people driving through an area is the best way to encourage them to shop there, isn't it, Not !!
I'm all for enhancing and redevelopment of Eastover, and the Old Hospital Site, when available to
Do so. The only drawback is financial
Funding of any Scheme, without the Money, any refurbishment is very difficult to bring to conclusion.
Over, the last 10yrs, we have seen many over-egged 'Pie in the Sky ' Projects, never brought to fruition, as when Push came to Shove,the flaw was Funding!!
So, as Bridgwater Backward will be fully supporting this Eastover Scheme, along with Cllrs Smedley, and the Labour Town Councils.
Perhaps, this forum, know of something they could oppose, as with out a cause, they would be lost!! Again! In the Wilderness, as they are now in Town, even with their 63 % backing of Bridgwaters Residents..
Chirp ChirpBlue-Owl.
David L Preece.
[quote][p][bold]cidreman[/bold] wrote: £550, 000 budget for the Town council . Bridgwater tax payers money Labour controlled council ...no money spent on regeneration of the Town ..no forward plan a Labour Cllr voting against the views of its on leader ... every SDC meeting planning etc the labour cllrs are always out voted ...its a farce Every time Cllr Smedley & Co try and stop something , they always lose But it always costs the taxpayers ,of Sedgemoor ...another meeting , I bet the labour Cllrs always put in their expense claims after attending these Tesco meetings .. Some of the £247,000 pounds enhancement fund is earmarked for a Town Council hand out for the improvements of West Quay ... Old Boy ..once West Quay is closed off ...then possibly Eastover , & Salmon Parade ..No traffic ! ..where is the traffic going to go ! Maybe the whole of Queens St , Chandos Street , King Square should be all closed off ... Without Eastover , Salmon Parade .. Traffic will only have Northgate ..dont you think Old Boy ..some of the Town Cllrs are making it a Bottle- neck . then maybe Blame Tesco.[/p][/quote]The trouble is you just cannot get fact's across to those whose ears and brains are closed, one term is indoctrinated, or blind to all other views and opinion. Cidreman, you say things as you see them, or read them, I've noticed I the past you comment with balanced mind, commenting where and when you see fit. It is a pity that some on this Forum, are so set in their way, they will "not be moved" wonder where we heard that b4. There is a Local saying here in Somerset, " you cannot educate pork" Now not that I'm casting any Nastertion's, Oop 's I've PRE ordered my Copy of tomorrow's Mercury ,before they sell out, this weeks front page, was balanced or not in it's Headline Article " A TOWN DIVIDED", So quoting Cllr Smedley and Bridgwater Backward Forward Group Member. Cllr Brian 'says there are enough supermarkets already- people should'nt have to live like this" does he mean the ability to shop in a new Tesco's Superstore taking the benefits they they are able to deliver for All. Sally Jones, ' Tesco will kill the Town' Sally on the Contrary, Tesco' s will breathe must needed investment in this Town, you and your fellow(s) BBF friends, are out of step with 2013- 25 We must strive to get as much investment into our Town of Bridgwater, as the decline of manufacturing, across the Town has long since died, BCL, Cryptons, Leffmans, Bridgwater Jam Factory, and all the others, to numerous to list. So, Sally now what are you and your Bridgwater (Backward) So Called Forward ,now going to oppose, Oh course it won't be the pedestrianation of West Quay, and Easover. Because in your minds, stopping people driving through an area is the best way to encourage them to shop there, isn't it, Not !! I'm all for enhancing and redevelopment of Eastover, and the Old Hospital Site, when available to Do so. The only drawback is financial Funding of any Scheme, without the Money, any refurbishment is very difficult to bring to conclusion. Over, the last 10yrs, we have seen many over-egged 'Pie in the Sky ' Projects, never brought to fruition, as when Push came to Shove,the flaw was Funding!! So, as Bridgwater Backward will be fully supporting this Eastover Scheme, along with Cllrs Smedley, and the Labour Town Councils. Perhaps, this forum, know of something they could oppose, as with out a cause, they would be lost!! Again! In the Wilderness, as they are now in Town, even with their 63 % backing of Bridgwaters Residents.. Chirp ChirpBlue-Owl. David L Preece. Blue Owl

3:30pm Mon 25 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Blue Owl
With West Quay closed to traffic ..along with Eastover & Salmon Parade
Bridgwater Labour Group town Cllrs can blame any traffic problems on Tesco once its built ...
Its more sense to close High Street & St Mary Street put a nice covering of cobblestones over the road area plant some trees ...put out some benches and some flower planters ....
Hey Blue Owl ...it would become shopper friendly , linking up Angel Place and Northgate ...
Blue Owl With West Quay closed to traffic ..along with Eastover & Salmon Parade Bridgwater Labour Group town Cllrs can blame any traffic problems on Tesco once its built ... Its more sense to close High Street & St Mary Street put a nice covering of cobblestones over the road area plant some trees ...put out some benches and some flower planters .... Hey Blue Owl ...it would become shopper friendly , linking up Angel Place and Northgate ... cidreman

5:58pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Samej1 says...

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Sockpuppet_
%28Internet%29
http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sockpuppet_ %28Internet%29 Samej1

7:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Alex@SDA says...

Noted. I picked up he same on this thread, as well as another thread on exactly the same matter. The other poster had yet another name.

Back in 1950 there was an excellent film with James Stewart. Harvey. If you don't know the relevance, good old Google will help.

Moving back on subject, which I ought to do because my observance (along with others) will get picked up and I will be admonished (yet again) by perhaps the worst offender within this medium.

I did highlight before that despite all the cat-calls as not wanted and will not get any customers, same happened when Safeway (Morrisons) was in the planning.

There are two sides to every argument or debate, and if the town is destined to grow as promised/threatened then there could be a need, location though may well be the moot point.

To be honest though there has been a lot of drivel & rhetoric within this affair a lot of which have been totally off topic and in particular very personal as well politically and opinionated.

I did fancy doing an analysis all the posts and see what was relevant, what was drivel and trolling etc. Thought better of it.
Noted. I picked up he same on this thread, as well as another thread on exactly the same matter. The other poster had yet another name. Back in 1950 there was an excellent film with James Stewart. Harvey. If you don't know the relevance, good old Google will help. Moving back on subject, which I ought to do because my observance (along with others) will get picked up and I will be admonished (yet again) by perhaps the worst offender within this medium. I did highlight before that despite all the cat-calls as not wanted and will not get any customers, same happened when Safeway (Morrisons) was in the planning. There are two sides to every argument or debate, and if the town is destined to grow as promised/threatened then there could be a need, location though may well be the moot point. To be honest though there has been a lot of drivel & rhetoric within this affair a lot of which have been totally off topic and in particular very personal as well politically and opinionated. I did fancy doing an analysis all the posts and see what was relevant, what was drivel and trolling etc. Thought better of it. Alex@SDA

8:06pm Mon 25 Feb 13

the voice of common sense says...

Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant the voice of common sense

8:30pm Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
Nice !!
[quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]Nice !! windswept and interesting

9:03pm Mon 25 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
....oh and there's so much more! It's all starting to unravel again before our very eyes.

Don't forget - we are all in this together
[quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]....oh and there's so much more! It's all starting to unravel again before our very eyes. Don't forget - we are all in this together ianeggbert

9:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13

notasnarrowmindedasmost says...

Samej1 wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Sockpuppet_

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well it is blue ;-))
[quote][p][bold]Samej1[/bold] wrote: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Sockpuppet_ %28Internet%29[/p][/quote]http://images4.wikia .nocookie.net/__cb20 090707045714/uncyclo pedia/images/8/83/A_ Sock_Puppet.jpg well it is blue ;-)) notasnarrowmindedasmost

10:06pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Boring says...

the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
Quality post fella. Very very true.
[quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]Quality post fella. Very very true. Boring

10:18pm Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

Upto
Upto windswept and interesting

10:18pm Mon 25 Feb 13

windswept and interesting says...

One Hundred !!
One Hundred !! windswept and interesting

10:52pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
And that was the.voice of commonsensical Non.
Well that's one 'spin' on the outcome.
Oh we must be so glad that Call me Tony, Dressed as A Tory, got elected, so as to dispose of our Countries Wealth, we were the 4th riches economy in the World, when Blair came to Power, 14th when he left Brown to carry the can for his mishandling of our Finances and economy.
Yes Margaret Thatcher gave the Council Tenants the Right to Buy, they had to fulfill certain criteria, as to residency.
Did, the Labour Party Build or allow to be built Council Houses during their reign of Downing St, NO. Councils were not allowed to.
I like your take as to why Dear Tony had to give away our Gold reserves @ rock bottom prices......twaddle!
!
But then if you read it enough time ,u will be indoctrinated.....an
d become a labour sympathiser.Not Me !
Blue Owl.
[quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]And that was the.voice of commonsensical Non. Well that's one 'spin' on the outcome. Oh we must be so glad that Call me Tony, Dressed as A Tory, got elected, so as to dispose of our Countries Wealth, we were the 4th riches economy in the World, when Blair came to Power, 14th when he left Brown to carry the can for his mishandling of our Finances and economy. Yes Margaret Thatcher gave the Council Tenants the Right to Buy, they had to fulfill certain criteria, as to residency. Did, the Labour Party Build or allow to be built Council Houses during their reign of Downing St, NO. Councils were not allowed to. I like your take as to why Dear Tony had to give away our Gold reserves @ rock bottom prices......twaddle! ! But then if you read it enough time ,u will be indoctrinated.....an d become a labour sympathiser.Not Me ! Blue Owl. Blue Owl

10:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
Nice !!
So you've got no comment of your own
Interesting!! Or not
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]Nice !![/p][/quote]So you've got no comment of your own Interesting!! Or not Blue-Owl Blue Owl

10:56pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

windswept and interesting wrote:
the voice of common sense wrote:
Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc.

What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no.

To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES

Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing.

The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us

By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price.

To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years.

The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before.

I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant
Nice !!
So you've got no comment of your own
Interesting!! Or not
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]windswept and interesting[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the voice of common sense[/bold] wrote: Moving back to the economics of this country, blaming the last labour government for the financial position we find ourselves in is a little rich, blame thatcher, she was the one who sold off our council houses, mines telephone system, gas, water etc etc. What happened to the money raised? Used to build schools? no. To create jobs? no. To give tax cuts to the wealthiest in society? YES Year after year more and more of our nations infrastructure was flogged off on the cheap to maintain the fallacy that thatcher and her veggies knew what they were doing. The master stroke was to let the plebs buy a few shares at a discounted rate, (remember sid) then the financial friends of the government came in and bought most of the shares and took over our infrastructure on the cheap. Then, when the price was right, sold it off to the highest bidder, that is why EDF have to build our power stations for us By the time the public came to their senses and voted in a labour government nearly everything had been sold. In order to avoid tax increases that would have made them extremely unpopular, and given the gutter press the chance to attack them as a tax increasing party they were forced into selling off everything else, even our gold at a knock down price. To create a better society public spending was increased to repair the ravages that had been perpetrated on the general public over the previous thirteen years. The spivs in the financial markets then got going, letting anyone with a pulse buy a house, took their commissions from each mortgage they sold then let the whole lot implode and Gordon Brown getting the blame for something that was set in motion nearly thirty years before. I'm sorry if I have gone on a bit, but our younger readers and contributors might appreciate a little back ground to the economy that seems to get distorted whenever a fly by night blue bird has a rant[/p][/quote]Nice !![/p][/quote]So you've got no comment of your own Interesting!! Or not Blue-Owl Blue Owl

7:25am Tue 26 Feb 13

scally666 says...

who sold all our gold cheap??

Gormless Brown
who sold all our gold cheap?? Gormless Brown scally666

11:24pm Tue 26 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

scally666 wrote:
who sold all our gold cheap??

Gormless Brown
I have to agree with Blue Owl on this one.

New Labour sold this Country's assets to the lowest bidder. At least Maggie got a decent price for the stuff she sold off.

I suppose next all the socialists will be spouting off how Blair was forced into illegally invading Afghanistan and Iraq.
[quote][p][bold]scally666[/bold] wrote: who sold all our gold cheap?? Gormless Brown[/p][/quote]I have to agree with Blue Owl on this one. New Labour sold this Country's assets to the lowest bidder. At least Maggie got a decent price for the stuff she sold off. I suppose next all the socialists will be spouting off how Blair was forced into illegally invading Afghanistan and Iraq. BaldCarl2

12:03am Wed 27 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

BaldCarl2 wrote:
scally666 wrote:
who sold all our gold cheap??

Gormless Brown
I have to agree with Blue Owl on this one.

New Labour sold this Country's assets to the lowest bidder. At least Maggie got a decent price for the stuff she sold off.

I suppose next all the socialists will be spouting off how Blair was forced into illegally invading Afghanistan and Iraq.
The reason Blair invaded Iraq and Afganistan, is because he thought he could repeat what support Margaret Thatcher did in the Falklands Invasion by the Argentinians.
Blue-owl
[quote][p][bold]BaldCarl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scally666[/bold] wrote: who sold all our gold cheap?? Gormless Brown[/p][/quote]I have to agree with Blue Owl on this one. New Labour sold this Country's assets to the lowest bidder. At least Maggie got a decent price for the stuff she sold off. I suppose next all the socialists will be spouting off how Blair was forced into illegally invading Afghanistan and Iraq.[/p][/quote]The reason Blair invaded Iraq and Afganistan, is because he thought he could repeat what support Margaret Thatcher did in the Falklands Invasion by the Argentinians. Blue-owl Blue Owl

5:45pm Wed 27 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

Being an ex squaddie with relevant experience of New Labour's crusades, I have a slightly different take but that would definitely be going off topic....
Being an ex squaddie with relevant experience of New Labour's crusades, I have a slightly different take but that would definitely be going off topic.... BaldCarl2

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