20mph limits - what do you think?

Bridgwater Mercury: 20mph limits - what do you think? 20mph limits - what do you think?

EIGHT in ten people back 20mph limits, according to safety charity Brake and Allianz Insurance.

The news comes as Brake takes its GO 20 campaign to parliament, calling on politicians to support the introduction of 20mph as the default urban speed limit.

Brake is urging people to write to their MP to support the GO 20 campaign and Pledge to GO 20.

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7:46pm Fri 4 Apr 14

twinkles says...

No no no no no.

The cause of most accidents in an urban area is poor driving. Whether the driver is distracted, otherwise engaged, makes a poor judgement, isn't taught to a high enough standard, and so on.

People who speed in a 30 zone will definitely speed in a 20 zone. To make everyone slow down is missing the point entirely.

Teach people to a higher standard and retest them every five years. Crush cars that are uninsured or unroadworthy and change people's opinion they have a RIGHT to drive. It's a PRIVILEGE, to be enjoyed if you meet standards.
No no no no no. The cause of most accidents in an urban area is poor driving. Whether the driver is distracted, otherwise engaged, makes a poor judgement, isn't taught to a high enough standard, and so on. People who speed in a 30 zone will definitely speed in a 20 zone. To make everyone slow down is missing the point entirely. Teach people to a higher standard and retest them every five years. Crush cars that are uninsured or unroadworthy and change people's opinion they have a RIGHT to drive. It's a PRIVILEGE, to be enjoyed if you meet standards. twinkles
  • Score: 8

3:25am Sat 5 Apr 14

Three Pots Derek says...

twinkles wrote:
No no no no no.

The cause of most accidents in an urban area is poor driving. Whether the driver is distracted, otherwise engaged, makes a poor judgement, isn't taught to a high enough standard, and so on.

People who speed in a 30 zone will definitely speed in a 20 zone. To make everyone slow down is missing the point entirely.

Teach people to a higher standard and retest them every five years. Crush cars that are uninsured or unroadworthy and change people's opinion they have a RIGHT to drive. It's a PRIVILEGE, to be enjoyed if you meet standards.
Couldn't agree more, I believe that the quality of driving is the main factor in most urban accidents, also the fact that there are still an awful lot of drivers still using mobile phones (NOT HANDSFREE ONES). And lets face it speeders will continue no matter what the limit is.
[quote][p][bold]twinkles[/bold] wrote: No no no no no. The cause of most accidents in an urban area is poor driving. Whether the driver is distracted, otherwise engaged, makes a poor judgement, isn't taught to a high enough standard, and so on. People who speed in a 30 zone will definitely speed in a 20 zone. To make everyone slow down is missing the point entirely. Teach people to a higher standard and retest them every five years. Crush cars that are uninsured or unroadworthy and change people's opinion they have a RIGHT to drive. It's a PRIVILEGE, to be enjoyed if you meet standards.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more, I believe that the quality of driving is the main factor in most urban accidents, also the fact that there are still an awful lot of drivers still using mobile phones (NOT HANDSFREE ONES). And lets face it speeders will continue no matter what the limit is. Three Pots Derek
  • Score: 7

5:10pm Sat 5 Apr 14

RustyKnight says...

A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference.
A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference. RustyKnight
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Sat 5 Apr 14

mikeymike says...

RustyKnight wrote:
A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference.
Have to agree with Twinkles. I see so many stupid things now I have a dashboard video camera in my car. So when it comes to the crunch no argument with the insurance as the other idiot tries to cover their a$$!!
[quote][p][bold]RustyKnight[/bold] wrote: A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with Twinkles. I see so many stupid things now I have a dashboard video camera in my car. So when it comes to the crunch no argument with the insurance as the other idiot tries to cover their a$$!! mikeymike
  • Score: 2

9:40pm Sat 5 Apr 14

mikeymike says...

Oops sorry RustyKnight didn't mean to quote you. Put my comment in the wrong box..DOH!!
Oops sorry RustyKnight didn't mean to quote you. Put my comment in the wrong box..DOH!! mikeymike
  • Score: 2

2:25am Mon 7 Apr 14

vanman20 says...

Will make no odds, you have a job to do 20mph in most parts of bridgwater during the day!
Will make no odds, you have a job to do 20mph in most parts of bridgwater during the day! vanman20
  • Score: 2

3:26am Mon 7 Apr 14

Three Pots Derek says...

mikeymike wrote:
RustyKnight wrote:
A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference.
Have to agree with Twinkles. I see so many stupid things now I have a dashboard video camera in my car. So when it comes to the crunch no argument with the insurance as the other idiot tries to cover their a$$!!
Good idea mikeymike

The dashboard camera seems a brilliant idea, I sometimes wish I had my camera at hand all the time I am out with my dogs. I see quite a few drivers on the mobile phone I think I could do with a shoulder video camera.
[quote][p][bold]mikeymike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RustyKnight[/bold] wrote: A 20mph zone horrendous traffic calming might just work but just a 20 on its own won't make any difference.[/p][/quote]Have to agree with Twinkles. I see so many stupid things now I have a dashboard video camera in my car. So when it comes to the crunch no argument with the insurance as the other idiot tries to cover their a$$!![/p][/quote]Good idea mikeymike The dashboard camera seems a brilliant idea, I sometimes wish I had my camera at hand all the time I am out with my dogs. I see quite a few drivers on the mobile phone I think I could do with a shoulder video camera. Three Pots Derek
  • Score: 3

12:53pm Mon 7 Apr 14

MartinB58 says...

When people fail to stick to the 30 limit what hope is there for a 20 limit?
When people fail to stick to the 30 limit what hope is there for a 20 limit? MartinB58
  • Score: 2

8:41am Tue 8 Apr 14

awayswing says...

Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.
Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds. awayswing
  • Score: 1

11:04am Tue 8 Apr 14

twinkles says...

awayswing wrote:
Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.
Sorry but that's pointless.

If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons.

More education is the answer. It's simple.
[quote][p][bold]awayswing[/bold] wrote: Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.[/p][/quote]Sorry but that's pointless. If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons. More education is the answer. It's simple. twinkles
  • Score: 3

4:03pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Baldbloke says...

twinkles wrote:
awayswing wrote:
Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.
Sorry but that's pointless.

If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons.

More education is the answer. It's simple.
Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway)

I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her.

No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face...
[quote][p][bold]twinkles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]awayswing[/bold] wrote: Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.[/p][/quote]Sorry but that's pointless. If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons. More education is the answer. It's simple.[/p][/quote]Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway) I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her. No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face... Baldbloke
  • Score: 1

4:34pm Tue 8 Apr 14

mikeymike says...

Baldbloke wrote:
twinkles wrote:
awayswing wrote:
Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.
Sorry but that's pointless.

If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons.

More education is the answer. It's simple.
Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway)

I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her.

No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face...
I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her.

No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included.

We are not allowed to hurt the poor little darlings feelings sadly Baldbloke!!
[quote][p][bold]Baldbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twinkles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]awayswing[/bold] wrote: Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.[/p][/quote]Sorry but that's pointless. If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons. More education is the answer. It's simple.[/p][/quote]Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway) I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her. No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face...[/p][/quote]I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her. No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. We are not allowed to hurt the poor little darlings feelings sadly Baldbloke!! mikeymike
  • Score: 1

5:09pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Baldbloke says...

mikeymike wrote:
Baldbloke wrote:
twinkles wrote:
awayswing wrote:
Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.
Sorry but that's pointless.

If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons.

More education is the answer. It's simple.
Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway)

I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her.

No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face...
I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her.

No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included.

We are not allowed to hurt the poor little darlings feelings sadly Baldbloke!!
... and don't we just know it - everybody and everything else at fault except the person behind the wheel...

Makes I laugh, it do...
[quote][p][bold]mikeymike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baldbloke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twinkles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]awayswing[/bold] wrote: Accidents are less serious, for those who are hurt, at slower speeds.If we all calmed down a bit behind the wheel or on our bikes things would be a lot safer at slower speeds.[/p][/quote]Sorry but that's pointless. If you care enough to slow down to 20mph, you're not the targetted audience. It's the people who don't think, who don't take care, who are otherwise involved in something more urgent who need to learn lessons. More education is the answer. It's simple.[/p][/quote]Better enforcement as well. If you exceed the speed limit (whether it's 20 or 70) and know there is a high chance of being caught, well, you're not going to do it (not in my book anyway) I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her. No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. Only the thickest-skinned and brain-dead drivers would be without a red face...[/p][/quote]I liked the approach that I saw in action some years ago on a French autoroute - post the registration number of a speeding vehicle on a matrix board and embarrass the hell out of him/her. No reason why it shouldn't work anywhere - 20mph zones included. We are not allowed to hurt the poor little darlings feelings sadly Baldbloke!![/p][/quote]... and don't we just know it - everybody and everything else at fault except the person behind the wheel... Makes I laugh, it do... Baldbloke
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Mad_dog says...

A small proportion of cars through the village where I live speed, but I dearly wish for a 20 mph limit (and enforcement). If a 20 limit slows speeders to 30 mph I'll be happy that the survival changes from an accident are massively improved. Speeding saves you seconds and observing the speed limit saves lives. That's quite a difference.
A small proportion of cars through the village where I live speed, but I dearly wish for a 20 mph limit (and enforcement). If a 20 limit slows speeders to 30 mph I'll be happy that the survival changes from an accident are massively improved. Speeding saves you seconds and observing the speed limit saves lives. That's quite a difference. Mad_dog
  • Score: 1

7:11pm Tue 15 Apr 14

BaldCarl2 says...

Great idea for raising some revenue
Great idea for raising some revenue BaldCarl2
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