Haygrove Road 186 homes project passed unanimously

Bridgwater Mercury: Haygrove Road 186 homes project passed unanimously Haygrove Road 186 homes project passed unanimously

A DEVELOPMENT of 186 homes on fields off Haygrove Road, in Bridgwater, has been passed unanimously by Sedgemoor District Council's development control committee this afternoon.

Earlier, during public speaking time, councillors for the area who were not part of the voting committee, had raised serious concerns about the project.

David Baker, district councillor for Bridgwater Wyndham ward, told the committee, said: "The ward councillors strongly object to this.

"We have more than enough housing to meet our five year obligations.

"We believe the single access route (from Haygrove Road) is totally inadequate for a development of this size."

Ann Bown, Bridgwater West county councillor, said: "There would be more congestion at the entrance of Haygrove Road.

"You cannot possibly have at least an extra 372 cars, plus recycling and emergency vehicles."

However, the meeting also heard Somerset County Council, the highways authority, was satisfied with the scheme.

And Chris Gomm, district council planning officer, said although the proposed development land was not yet needed for housing in Sedgemoor's core strategy, it could be released early under exceptional circumstances, to fund 'transformational projects'.

He said this would include The Meads Eco-Park, which the Haygrove Road development, by David Wilson Homes, would make a major contribution towards.

Mr Gomm also said the developer would contribute to primary school places and flood defences.

He added: "This is a very good package of planning obligations."

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1:28pm Tue 12 Feb 13

grisleyreg says...

These houses need to help fill the new Tesco
These houses need to help fill the new Tesco grisleyreg

1:38pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Silverbirch says...

Shame on them. Hundreds of houses that aren't needed built on green fields. And in return-a ridiculous ecopark, the site of which has been underwater five times in the last 10 months. What a joke. The developers laugh their way to the bank once again.
Shame on them. Hundreds of houses that aren't needed built on green fields. And in return-a ridiculous ecopark, the site of which has been underwater five times in the last 10 months. What a joke. The developers laugh their way to the bank once again. Silverbirch

1:55pm Tue 12 Feb 13

MartinB58 says...

The land could be released "to fund 'transformational projects'.". Basically then after being refused permission for 187 homes 6 months ago the developers offer Sedgemoor DC a load of money in exchange for permission to build 186 homes. I might be mistaken, but in any other business this would be called bribery.
The land could be released "to fund 'transformational projects'.". Basically then after being refused permission for 187 homes 6 months ago the developers offer Sedgemoor DC a load of money in exchange for permission to build 186 homes. I might be mistaken, but in any other business this would be called bribery. MartinB58

1:57pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Waterway says...

A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............ Waterway

2:05pm Tue 12 Feb 13

grisleyreg says...

Must be in the running for the worst council in the West award
Must be in the running for the worst council in the West award grisleyreg

2:23pm Tue 12 Feb 13

MartinB58 says...

Waterway wrote:
A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
[quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :) MartinB58

5:00pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Waterway says...

MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote:
A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
To quote one leading Councillor the Eco park was used as a Trojan Horse to build yet more houses on unspoilt green belt land. Without the housing it was doubtful the Eco park would ever come to fruition. I would suggest you visit the SDC website to see for yourself what is proposed for the Eco park. I have grave reservation it will ever be completed as there are so many issues surrounding the site which the planners have failed to address.
I do like the idea of putting White Elephants on the site, keep it quiet though the planners will think we're serious..........
[quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]To quote one leading Councillor the Eco park was used as a Trojan Horse to build yet more houses on unspoilt green belt land. Without the housing it was doubtful the Eco park would ever come to fruition. I would suggest you visit the SDC website to see for yourself what is proposed for the Eco park. I have grave reservation it will ever be completed as there are so many issues surrounding the site which the planners have failed to address. I do like the idea of putting White Elephants on the site, keep it quiet though the planners will think we're serious.......... Waterway

6:37pm Tue 12 Feb 13

jimeee says...

There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them.
There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them. jimeee

7:14pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Unlike those postings above, I was @ the Planning 2day. The only reason that I could see for this housing to not be allowed, would have been on highway access from Haygrove Rd onto Durleigh Rd. This is the only access to the new development, of some 250 plus vehicle movements during the day 24/7. SCC Highways made no Reccomendations to rectify any possible clash of this new traffic, with the already, conflicts that occur during present School days @ Haygrove.
The developer, who was sat behind me, when I asked said they had offered to SCC Highways, that they would pay for traffic light T junction lighting. For this Haygrove junction to aid traffic movements. Declined by County Highways.
The planned layout, with the affordable home package, was the best I've seen.
The Eco park, will not actually be on the Meads that are currently under flood water, but more aligned with Durleigh Brook. The lower Meads will be managed, to prevent future flooding, with the appropriate measures. The cycle and walkways will be sited, where they are not affected, by excess water./ rainfall.
Regards David Preece
Blue -Owl
Unlike those postings above, I was @ the Planning 2day. The only reason that I could see for this housing to not be allowed, would have been on highway access from Haygrove Rd onto Durleigh Rd. This is the only access to the new development, of some 250 plus vehicle movements during the day 24/7. SCC Highways made no Reccomendations to rectify any possible clash of this new traffic, with the already, conflicts that occur during present School days @ Haygrove. The developer, who was sat behind me, when I asked said they had offered to SCC Highways, that they would pay for traffic light T junction lighting. For this Haygrove junction to aid traffic movements. Declined by County Highways. The planned layout, with the affordable home package, was the best I've seen. The Eco park, will not actually be on the Meads that are currently under flood water, but more aligned with Durleigh Brook. The lower Meads will be managed, to prevent future flooding, with the appropriate measures. The cycle and walkways will be sited, where they are not affected, by excess water./ rainfall. Regards David Preece Blue -Owl Blue Owl

7:54pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Waterway says...

jimeee wrote:
There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them.
You were not the only resident attending the meeting this morning David and well done for presenting your balanced views! However I could possibly tell you more about this planning application than you would ever know, having spent the past 3 years carefully monitoring this application.
You unfortunately have been selective with the facts which is not helpful to the broad range of issues which have been expressed not only by local residents but those who are fed up with the council ploughing ahead with developments which arguably are not required at this time. This application was not needed at this time and was premature, but the planners argued it was part of a wider transformational project and seem to have convinced the planning Committee to vote to approve.
By the way I have collated numerous photos of Durleigh Brook under water in the past year, can't wait to sent them onto the planners when the area is developed and will be subject to flooding with a big message - Told you so!
[quote][p][bold]jimeee[/bold] wrote: There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them.[/p][/quote]You were not the only resident attending the meeting this morning David and well done for presenting your balanced views! However I could possibly tell you more about this planning application than you would ever know, having spent the past 3 years carefully monitoring this application. You unfortunately have been selective with the facts which is not helpful to the broad range of issues which have been expressed not only by local residents but those who are fed up with the council ploughing ahead with developments which arguably are not required at this time. This application was not needed at this time and was premature, but the planners argued it was part of a wider transformational project and seem to have convinced the planning Committee to vote to approve. By the way I have collated numerous photos of Durleigh Brook under water in the past year, can't wait to sent them onto the planners when the area is developed and will be subject to flooding with a big message - Told you so! Waterway

8:03pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Doverbeme says...

Waterway wrote:
A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Agree entirely.
[quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Agree entirely. Doverbeme

2:47am Wed 13 Feb 13

BaldCarl2 says...

186 homes is a lot more revenue in council tax.

And let's face it, that's all that matters to the council because it pays for their 3G iPads.
186 homes is a lot more revenue in council tax. And let's face it, that's all that matters to the council because it pays for their 3G iPads. BaldCarl2

1:22pm Wed 13 Feb 13

swjoduk says...

Waterway wrote:
jimeee wrote: There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them.
You were not the only resident attending the meeting this morning David and well done for presenting your balanced views! However I could possibly tell you more about this planning application than you would ever know, having spent the past 3 years carefully monitoring this application. You unfortunately have been selective with the facts which is not helpful to the broad range of issues which have been expressed not only by local residents but those who are fed up with the council ploughing ahead with developments which arguably are not required at this time. This application was not needed at this time and was premature, but the planners argued it was part of a wider transformational project and seem to have convinced the planning Committee to vote to approve. By the way I have collated numerous photos of Durleigh Brook under water in the past year, can't wait to sent them onto the planners when the area is developed and will be subject to flooding with a big message - Told you so!
These photos should be shared with Somerset County Council (Lead Local Flood Authority), Sedgemoor and the Environment Agency, the more photos and evidence they have for their records the better.

Pretty sure that EA flood mapping currently shows the land which is to be developed is outside of the flood plain with all the flood water heading south over the meads towards my neck of the woods.
[quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimeee[/bold] wrote: There is a shortage of housing nationally...but why does bridgy have to fill the gap...there are other local places like highbridge that are desperate for some new houses and they have lots of space for them.[/p][/quote]You were not the only resident attending the meeting this morning David and well done for presenting your balanced views! However I could possibly tell you more about this planning application than you would ever know, having spent the past 3 years carefully monitoring this application. You unfortunately have been selective with the facts which is not helpful to the broad range of issues which have been expressed not only by local residents but those who are fed up with the council ploughing ahead with developments which arguably are not required at this time. This application was not needed at this time and was premature, but the planners argued it was part of a wider transformational project and seem to have convinced the planning Committee to vote to approve. By the way I have collated numerous photos of Durleigh Brook under water in the past year, can't wait to sent them onto the planners when the area is developed and will be subject to flooding with a big message - Told you so![/p][/quote]These photos should be shared with Somerset County Council (Lead Local Flood Authority), Sedgemoor and the Environment Agency, the more photos and evidence they have for their records the better. Pretty sure that EA flood mapping currently shows the land which is to be developed is outside of the flood plain with all the flood water heading south over the meads towards my neck of the woods. swjoduk

1:27pm Wed 13 Feb 13

swjoduk says...

MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc.

I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet.

Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy.

The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).
[quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc. I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet. Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy. The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton). swjoduk

2:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

cidreman says...

Build on any land but not in Durleigh or Wembdon .
Well @ least this area now can expect a fair share of EU migrants once the houses are built ( Not Sold ) Then they will be sold off to housing groups and familys move in ..this will all soon be forgot about just like the building of the NDR road
Just want the New Schools now to be built ...and possibly a Tesco Metro and the maybe even The BMX and Skatepark on the Fairfield
Build on any land but not in Durleigh or Wembdon . Well @ least this area now can expect a fair share of EU migrants once the houses are built ( Not Sold ) Then they will be sold off to housing groups and familys move in ..this will all soon be forgot about just like the building of the NDR road Just want the New Schools now to be built ...and possibly a Tesco Metro and the maybe even The BMX and Skatepark on the Fairfield cidreman

11:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Blurby Monster says...

Don"t know whose palm you got to grease to get some works contracts here?. Might not really matter to me anyway, chances are I"ll be off to do some time soon anyway. What do you do in nick all day?. Maybe the old saying is good advice, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do.."?.
Don"t know whose palm you got to grease to get some works contracts here?. Might not really matter to me anyway, chances are I"ll be off to do some time soon anyway. What do you do in nick all day?. Maybe the old saying is good advice, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do.."?. Blurby Monster

2:33pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

swjoduk wrote:
MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc.

I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet.

Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy.

The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).
Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true.
There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!!
Blue-Owl.
[quote][p][bold]swjoduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc. I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet. Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy. The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).[/p][/quote]Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true. There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!! Blue-Owl. Blue Owl

8:06am Fri 15 Feb 13

Hombre says...

Cycle path on the meads? I saw a canoe a few weeks ago!
Cycle path on the meads? I saw a canoe a few weeks ago! Hombre

11:07am Fri 15 Feb 13

Old Phucker says...

Hombre wrote:
Cycle path on the meads? I saw a canoe a few weeks ago!
As a nipper, walking from the small iron bridge across Durleigh Brook, towards the canal, through the fields, my difficult path through long wild grass and weed was hampered by squelching wet soggy ground beneath. In the distance, if memory serves, were rows of willow trees, a sure sign of excess water. Is this area really suitable for development?. Are the large insurance companies going to pick up the bill, sevewral years on, when the new homes starting sinking?.
[quote][p][bold]Hombre[/bold] wrote: Cycle path on the meads? I saw a canoe a few weeks ago![/p][/quote]As a nipper, walking from the small iron bridge across Durleigh Brook, towards the canal, through the fields, my difficult path through long wild grass and weed was hampered by squelching wet soggy ground beneath. In the distance, if memory serves, were rows of willow trees, a sure sign of excess water. Is this area really suitable for development?. Are the large insurance companies going to pick up the bill, sevewral years on, when the new homes starting sinking?. Old Phucker

2:35pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Bridgy old Boy says...

From what I remember from the plans the bogland which Old Phucker describes so eloquently will be the site of the Eco Park. The housing will be undertaken on the elevated and sloping Durleigh Hill part of the site.
From what I remember from the plans the bogland which Old Phucker describes so eloquently will be the site of the Eco Park. The housing will be undertaken on the elevated and sloping Durleigh Hill part of the site. Bridgy old Boy

12:06am Sun 17 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

It's no different to EDF building their work re Accom Blocks on our 2nd Team rugby pitch on Bath road, I'm told that the 'Piles' have hit "Custard" ie: nothing that the foundations will sustain, so the 3 Story Accom Blocks for the workers will be 2above Ground and one below, sub basement level. In the clay pits, there was a reason as to why our clubhouse was positioned were it is?? ! The land would not hold our building never mind EDF, u can always go to plan B all on Cellophanes factory site, you have already bought.
Regards Blue -Owl
It's no different to EDF building their work re Accom Blocks on our 2nd Team rugby pitch on Bath road, I'm told that the 'Piles' have hit "Custard" ie: nothing that the foundations will sustain, so the 3 Story Accom Blocks for the workers will be 2above Ground and one below, sub basement level. In the clay pits, there was a reason as to why our clubhouse was positioned were it is?? ! The land would not hold our building never mind EDF, u can always go to plan B all on Cellophanes factory site, you have already bought. Regards Blue -Owl Blue Owl

12:06am Sun 17 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

It's no different to EDF building their work re Accom Blocks on our 2nd Team rugby pitch on Bath road, I'm told that the 'Piles' have hit "Custard" ie: nothing that the foundations will sustain, so the 3 Story Accom Blocks for the workers will be 2above Ground and one below, sub basement level. In the clay pits, there was a reason as to why our clubhouse was positioned were it is?? ! The land would not hold our building never mind EDF, u can always go to plan B all on Cellophanes factory site, you have already bought.
Regards Blue -Owl
It's no different to EDF building their work re Accom Blocks on our 2nd Team rugby pitch on Bath road, I'm told that the 'Piles' have hit "Custard" ie: nothing that the foundations will sustain, so the 3 Story Accom Blocks for the workers will be 2above Ground and one below, sub basement level. In the clay pits, there was a reason as to why our clubhouse was positioned were it is?? ! The land would not hold our building never mind EDF, u can always go to plan B all on Cellophanes factory site, you have already bought. Regards Blue -Owl Blue Owl

12:09am Sun 17 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

Sorry too much 7 * MataxaBrandy in Athens tonight
blue-Owl
Oops tooooooooo much personal info
Blue-Owl
Sorry too much 7 * MataxaBrandy in Athens tonight blue-Owl Oops tooooooooo much personal info Blue-Owl Blue Owl

12:04pm Sun 17 Feb 13

ianeggbert says...

Blue Owl wrote:
swjoduk wrote:
MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc.

I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet.

Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy.

The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).
Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true.
There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!!
Blue-Owl.
Blue Fowl,

I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country.

I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swjoduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc. I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet. Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy. The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).[/p][/quote]Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true. There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!! Blue-Owl.[/p][/quote]Blue Fowl, I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country. I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein ianeggbert

9:09pm Sun 17 Feb 13

pollydolly05 says...

Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object!
Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object! pollydolly05

11:00pm Sun 17 Feb 13

TAGuy says...

The houses look pretty big in the plan I saw so doubt they will be buy to let or social. If they are then I'll have one!
The houses look pretty big in the plan I saw so doubt they will be buy to let or social. If they are then I'll have one! TAGuy

11:07am Mon 18 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
swjoduk wrote:
MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc.

I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet.

Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy.

The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).
Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true.
There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!!
Blue-Owl.
Blue Fowl,

I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country.

I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein
Ianeggbert, your posts need only this response,



















Blue-Owl.
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swjoduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc. I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet. Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy. The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).[/p][/quote]Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true. There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!! Blue-Owl.[/p][/quote]Blue Fowl, I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country. I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein[/p][/quote]Ianeggbert, your posts need only this response, Blue-Owl. Blue Owl

11:21am Mon 18 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

pollydolly05 wrote:
Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object!
As I posted last week, the Developers offered a solution to SCC Highways, to enable better traffic movements off Durliegh into Haygrove Rd, Traffic T Junction lights, were not deemed neccessary by County Highways!! How they come to that decision, who Knows!!.
What , I do know, as I've tried to enlighten these posting s with is Facts.
They are that the Planning Commitee, have to work within tight guidelines, on Planning Issues and the Commitee, it does not matter if 50 residents, object for a variety of reasons, if, they are not deemed to be of significant nature to allow a refusal of Granting Permission, and the Commitee have to satisfy the Planning Officer, the Legal Team on SDC,and give the valid reason as to why they are going against the Planning Officers Reccommendation.
And this has to be accepted in Legal terms.
Or any Applicant, can go to Appeal, and if the Original Decision, is found to be incorrect, the SDC, have to pay the Costs, of both sides.
I make no apology for the length of this answer.
I Hope this helps all to understand the process, that the Commitee Members have to adhere to.
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]pollydolly05[/bold] wrote: Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object![/p][/quote]As I posted last week, the Developers offered a solution to SCC Highways, to enable better traffic movements off Durliegh into Haygrove Rd, Traffic T Junction lights, were not deemed neccessary by County Highways!! How they come to that decision, who Knows!!. What , I do know, as I've tried to enlighten these posting s with is Facts. They are that the Planning Commitee, have to work within tight guidelines, on Planning Issues and the Commitee, it does not matter if 50 residents, object for a variety of reasons, if, they are not deemed to be of significant nature to allow a refusal of Granting Permission, and the Commitee have to satisfy the Planning Officer, the Legal Team on SDC,and give the valid reason as to why they are going against the Planning Officers Reccommendation. And this has to be accepted in Legal terms. Or any Applicant, can go to Appeal, and if the Original Decision, is found to be incorrect, the SDC, have to pay the Costs, of both sides. I make no apology for the length of this answer. I Hope this helps all to understand the process, that the Commitee Members have to adhere to. Blue-Owl Blue Owl

1:21pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Cyborgigy says...

Won't be long before Bridgwater applies to have its name changed to Bridgwater Keynes.....Just need some concrete cows and you've cracked it. Mind you, soon enough, there won't be any green land to put the cows on......
Won't be long before Bridgwater applies to have its name changed to Bridgwater Keynes.....Just need some concrete cows and you've cracked it. Mind you, soon enough, there won't be any green land to put the cows on...... Cyborgigy

5:44pm Mon 18 Feb 13

MartinB58 says...

Blue Owl wrote:
pollydolly05 wrote:
Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object!
As I posted last week, the Developers offered a solution to SCC Highways, to enable better traffic movements off Durliegh into Haygrove Rd, Traffic T Junction lights, were not deemed neccessary by County Highways!! How they come to that decision, who Knows!!.
What , I do know, as I've tried to enlighten these posting s with is Facts.
They are that the Planning Commitee, have to work within tight guidelines, on Planning Issues and the Commitee, it does not matter if 50 residents, object for a variety of reasons, if, they are not deemed to be of significant nature to allow a refusal of Granting Permission, and the Commitee have to satisfy the Planning Officer, the Legal Team on SDC,and give the valid reason as to why they are going against the Planning Officers Reccommendation.
And this has to be accepted in Legal terms.
Or any Applicant, can go to Appeal, and if the Original Decision, is found to be incorrect, the SDC, have to pay the Costs, of both sides.
I make no apology for the length of this answer.
I Hope this helps all to understand the process, that the Commitee Members have to adhere to.
Blue-Owl
Blue Owl: I understand what you are saying about the guidelines the planning committee have to work to and that plans can't be turned down simply because people object. However, what I still don't get is what has changed in 6 months that now makes early release of this land acceptable. I'm sure it can't be as simple as one less home or a revised layout, that is just too easy. But from a laymans view all that is left is the Developers offering more funding to go towards the Eco Park which, again to a layman, sounds like legalised bribery. As a former planning committee member maybe you could enlighten me on how this works.
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pollydolly05[/bold] wrote: Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object![/p][/quote]As I posted last week, the Developers offered a solution to SCC Highways, to enable better traffic movements off Durliegh into Haygrove Rd, Traffic T Junction lights, were not deemed neccessary by County Highways!! How they come to that decision, who Knows!!. What , I do know, as I've tried to enlighten these posting s with is Facts. They are that the Planning Commitee, have to work within tight guidelines, on Planning Issues and the Commitee, it does not matter if 50 residents, object for a variety of reasons, if, they are not deemed to be of significant nature to allow a refusal of Granting Permission, and the Commitee have to satisfy the Planning Officer, the Legal Team on SDC,and give the valid reason as to why they are going against the Planning Officers Reccommendation. And this has to be accepted in Legal terms. Or any Applicant, can go to Appeal, and if the Original Decision, is found to be incorrect, the SDC, have to pay the Costs, of both sides. I make no apology for the length of this answer. I Hope this helps all to understand the process, that the Commitee Members have to adhere to. Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]Blue Owl: I understand what you are saying about the guidelines the planning committee have to work to and that plans can't be turned down simply because people object. However, what I still don't get is what has changed in 6 months that now makes early release of this land acceptable. I'm sure it can't be as simple as one less home or a revised layout, that is just too easy. But from a laymans view all that is left is the Developers offering more funding to go towards the Eco Park which, again to a layman, sounds like legalised bribery. As a former planning committee member maybe you could enlighten me on how this works. MartinB58

10:40pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

MartinB58, in Answer, as I am no longer an active Commitee Member, I listened to what had been said re;This Application, the Officer said that as this Housing Scheme, met the Criteria of almost 1/3 affordable housing, it was deemed to also meet the extraordinary acceptable measures which could be brought forward with it, the Eco Park Meads Scheme, so on balance, the Officers Reccommendation was to
support it.
As I wrote, personally with the exception of better Access & Egress from Haygrove Rd, there I find the Highways, should have taken on board the Developers offer, to install Traffic Control Junction, on Durleigh Rd.
I Hope this makes it clearer, as you said, why was this application, different from the earlier deferred scheme, I did'nt see this in detail, but I suppose the amendments made it so.
Regards Blue-Owl
MartinB58, in Answer, as I am no longer an active Commitee Member, I listened to what had been said re;This Application, the Officer said that as this Housing Scheme, met the Criteria of almost 1/3 affordable housing, it was deemed to also meet the extraordinary acceptable measures which could be brought forward with it, the Eco Park Meads Scheme, so on balance, the Officers Reccommendation was to support it. As I wrote, personally with the exception of better Access & Egress from Haygrove Rd, there I find the Highways, should have taken on board the Developers offer, to install Traffic Control Junction, on Durleigh Rd. I Hope this makes it clearer, as you said, why was this application, different from the earlier deferred scheme, I did'nt see this in detail, but I suppose the amendments made it so. Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

10:56pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

pollydolly05 wrote:
Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object!
What you have to understand, is that 'There are criteria, laid down' which are the guides that are there to aid the Commitee to come to decisions.Highways,S
CC, Officers stated that the access for a ' Cul de sac housing scheme with this number of dwellings. They, have the final say, as to whether this is ok or not. The Commitee, cannot disagree.!
The other point you make re: Mr Nataro buying the house adjacent to the access, this is common practice for most Developers, to gain access to a field or make a better approach road.
Regards Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]pollydolly05[/bold] wrote: Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object![/p][/quote]What you have to understand, is that 'There are criteria, laid down' which are the guides that are there to aid the Commitee to come to decisions.Highways,S CC, Officers stated that the access for a ' Cul de sac housing scheme with this number of dwellings. They, have the final say, as to whether this is ok or not. The Commitee, cannot disagree.! The other point you make re: Mr Nataro buying the house adjacent to the access, this is common practice for most Developers, to gain access to a field or make a better approach road. Regards Blue-Owl Blue Owl

11:14pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Blue Owl says...

ianeggbert wrote:
Blue Owl wrote:
swjoduk wrote:
MartinB58 wrote:
Waterway wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............
Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)
I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc.

I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet.

Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy.

The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).
Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true.
There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!!
Blue-Owl.
Blue Fowl,

I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country.

I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein
For your information, the Police would certainly bE more visible, if over the Previous Governments 13yrs in office, they had not made it so, that the Officer on the Beat, have to spend all of their Beat Time filling in Paperwork in the back office, for the rest of their shift, if they make an arrest.
Then when they come onto shift, they have to process any cases that were not dealt with by the previous shift.
Hence this is why, there are not so many PC 's on the street.
So instead of blaming this Government, who is having to pick up the pieces, left by Messr Brown and Blair, just look at how many extra Civil Servants, were employed during their reign in Nos 10 & 11 Downing St.
But, hey don't take my word for it, as I know nothing, according to you.
Pot Kettle Black, comes to mind when you go on about a long rambling response, just look. At the length of your posts, I've no problem, as you obviously needed the Column to say what you needed to.
Blue-Owl
[quote][p][bold]ianeggbert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]swjoduk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MartinB58[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Waterway[/bold] wrote: A very sad day for democracy in Bridgwater. Building houses we don't need so funding can be made available for an Eco park that's by popular consensus the biggest white Elephant ever seen in this town, which will be a drain on resources for years to come at the tax payers expense. Well done planners you have succeeded in creating a lasting legacy for all the wrong reasons! Can't wait to see your next project ............[/p][/quote]Can anyone tell me what an "ecopark" actually is? What is actually "eco" about it? If it is an open space that people can visit then in a town that would normally just be a park, outside of town it is a bit of countryside. Some white elephant rides might be appreciated by the kids though :)[/p][/quote]I think the Eco park will be a network of paths, cyclepaths and benches etc. I think it will be a great addition to Bridgwater and create somewhere nice to take the kids and to enjoy nature and peace and quiet. Bridgwater really needs more public open spaces, Taunton has Vivary Park which is superb and incidentally floods too but 90% of the time is flood free and there for people to enjoy. The closest thing Bridgwater has is Blake Gardens which is tiny and has pockets of drunk/stoned layabouts in the summer which can be intimidating and with the constant humm of swearing and aggressive shouting (not much different to Goodlands Gardens in Taunton).[/p][/quote]Iwas sceptical myself when first hearing of this proposed Eco Development, however on seeing the Plans in detail, the location of the routes cycle and paths. I have to agree with you, that if all the aspects of a managed scheme are implimated, then personally I see no reason for it not to become an asset to our Town. What you say about , the other Green open Park area's in Bridgwater is, I'm sorry to say true. There has been a sharp rise over the last couple of years in assaults, and serious makes using these Parks, for some residents, a no go area. The Police should be more visible with their presence on the Beat!! Blue-Owl.[/p][/quote]Blue Fowl, I'm sure the police would be more visible on "the beat" if the current government weren't so adept at cutting all of the front line services in this country. I do expect a long rambling reply in a "necessary savings/ all in this together" type vein[/p][/quote]For your information, the Police would certainly bE more visible, if over the Previous Governments 13yrs in office, they had not made it so, that the Officer on the Beat, have to spend all of their Beat Time filling in Paperwork in the back office, for the rest of their shift, if they make an arrest. Then when they come onto shift, they have to process any cases that were not dealt with by the previous shift. Hence this is why, there are not so many PC 's on the street. So instead of blaming this Government, who is having to pick up the pieces, left by Messr Brown and Blair, just look at how many extra Civil Servants, were employed during their reign in Nos 10 & 11 Downing St. But, hey don't take my word for it, as I know nothing, according to you. Pot Kettle Black, comes to mind when you go on about a long rambling response, just look. At the length of your posts, I've no problem, as you obviously needed the Column to say what you needed to. Blue-Owl Blue Owl

8:42pm Tue 19 Feb 13

pollydolly05 says...

Blue Owl wrote:
pollydolly05 wrote:
Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object!
What you have to understand, is that 'There are criteria, laid down' which are the guides that are there to aid the Commitee to come to decisions.Highways,S

CC, Officers stated that the access for a ' Cul de sac housing scheme with this number of dwellings. They, have the final say, as to whether this is ok or not. The Commitee, cannot disagree.!
The other point you make re: Mr Nataro buying the house adjacent to the access, this is common practice for most Developers, to gain access to a field or make a better approach road.
Regards Blue-Owl
So really what you are saying that us 50 or so residents that have objected numerous times over the last couple of years since this development was first put forward were wasting our time! Also the developers buying Haygrove Manor and the last house in the road at a cost of nearly a million pounds must have been pretty sure about securring the planning on this green belt land that wasn't on the strategic plan...I wonder why??
[quote][p][bold]Blue Owl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pollydolly05[/bold] wrote: Once again the developers get their way.Sedgemoor planning committee should be ashamed of themselves for giving this development the green light after refusing permission only 6 months ago. We can only be left wondering why so many of the committee now see this as a viable option for housing??? As a resident of Haygrove Road we can only say how disgusted we are at this decision. There has been a lot said about The Meads enhancing the area,how exactly does 186 homes enhance the area? We all know these houses will be buy to let or social housing. The road is completely unsuitable for the large number of cars that will be using it and no doubt when a child is knocked down crossing to get to school it will be anybodys fault but the planning committee,highways agency or developers. Perhaps now Mr Notaro has his decision he would like to tidy up the area at the bottom of our road that he has left in such a mess after percurring the end house so there would be one less household to object![/p][/quote]What you have to understand, is that 'There are criteria, laid down' which are the guides that are there to aid the Commitee to come to decisions.Highways,S CC, Officers stated that the access for a ' Cul de sac housing scheme with this number of dwellings. They, have the final say, as to whether this is ok or not. The Commitee, cannot disagree.! The other point you make re: Mr Nataro buying the house adjacent to the access, this is common practice for most Developers, to gain access to a field or make a better approach road. Regards Blue-Owl[/p][/quote]So really what you are saying that us 50 or so residents that have objected numerous times over the last couple of years since this development was first put forward were wasting our time! Also the developers buying Haygrove Manor and the last house in the road at a cost of nearly a million pounds must have been pretty sure about securring the planning on this green belt land that wasn't on the strategic plan...I wonder why?? pollydolly05

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